An answer to Steven Shamrak, vol. 5

*Obama Appointed Self-Hating Anti-Semitism Czar.

*by Aaron Klein***

In her first major interview since becoming President Obama's newly
appointed anti-Semitism czar (it took Obama a while to find an
ideologically compatible self-hating Jew to fill the position), Hannah
Rosenthal blasted the Israeli government. She characterized as "most
unfortunate" a decision by Michael Oren, Israel's ambassador to the
United States, to not attend the annual dinner in September of J
Street, a (self-appointed) lobby group that is mostly led by
left-leaning (anti-Israel and anti-Jewish)
here's another thinking-challenged demagogue, who can't comprehend the basic fact of life, that there could be smart people who think different than him.

Israelis and receives funds
from Arab and Muslim Americans... J Street supports talks with Hamas,
a terrorist group
Not more terrorist than the IDF
whose charter seeks the destruction of Israel. The
group opposes sanctions against Iran and is harshly critical of
Israeli offensive anti-terror military actions.
That’s because the "military actions" are even worse terrorist actions than those of the Hamas.

Regarding a recent UN report, accusing Israel of war crimes during
the Jewish state's defensive war in Gaza last year, Rosenthal told
Haaretz, "it is not anti-Semitic to look at a certain policy of Israel
and say - I disagree with it. Half of the population in Israel isn't
anti-Semitic by not agreeing with policies." (If this is so, will she
call for the investigation of war crimes allegedly committed by the US
army in Afghanistan and Iraq?)
Of course!


*When civilians actively have been supporting Islamic terrorism
against the state of Israel and actively participated in or covered
the hostile actions of enemies during the war, as they have been doing
in Afghanistan and Iraq. Therefore they became * enemy combatants
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enemy_combatant>
. Killing them is not a war crime! The UN's high-priced international
lawyers know this, but anti-Semitic international politicians are
still waging an anti-Israel smear campaign!
By this definition (to which I don't agree), most of the Jewish residents of Israel are "enemy combatants" and are entitled to be killed.


Arabs and Druze are Most Murderous Israelis. While Arab and Druze
Israelis constitute 20% of the country's population, they accounted
for 59% of the country's murders. Out of 121 murders in Israel in
2009, 71 were committed by or among Arabs and Druze. The vast majority
of criminal bombings occurred in the minority sector, particularly the
Arab sector, where 85 events of planting bombs and 65 of throwing
grenades at targets were recorded
By whom? Those are sheer lies.



In Spite of Having Oil. A report published by the United Nations
Development Program and the Arab League shows that 40% of people in
Arab countries live under the poverty line, a figure that has not
changed over the past 20 years. In addition, unemployment among young
people in the Arab world ranks among the highest in the world.
This is actually true.

Message to anti-Israel Objectors.

by Steven Shamrak

You would like to call and see yourself as genuine and objective
supporters of a just cause but you never worry about the factual
correctness of the anti-Israel information you are using. Quite often
you knowingly using forged information and even deliberately make fake
accusations or twist the facts in order to make an anti-Israel smear.
When we show you factual proof that so-called Palestinians are a fake
nation and are actually the occupiers of Jews' land, you dismiss it as
Zionist propaganda.
No, we dismiss it based on real facts, not wishful thinking. The Palestinians are here and nobody can tell any group of people that they are not a nation, if they feel that they are.
Years of suicide bombings and rocket attacks
against Jews in Israel are unable to shake off your support for
terrorists
that's because of years of massive killings of innocent Palestinians by the Israeli "defense" forces.

If you are not anti-Semites, why don't you care so much about the
occupation of: Tibet by China; Basque region by Spain and France;
Northern Ireland by the United Kingdom; Kurdistan by five countries;
Kashmir by India and Pakistan; Western Sahara by Morocco? Where is
your concern about the fate of refugees created by the war in Congo,
the genocidal policy of the Sudanese government and so on?
Yes we do, there is no contradiction.

Avner Efendowicz

An answer to Steven Shamrak, vol. 4

Dear readers,

I guess you know the routine already… here goes:

IDF Can when Politicians Want. Security Services in partnership with

soldiers of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) killed the murderers of
Rabbi Meir Avshalom Chai. All three were convicted terrorists who had
been committed to and later released from Israeli prisons.
This is actually killing without trial, which is considered a severe crime in any civilized country, except, of course, Israel.

*Goldstone Report Works Both Ways.* Fifteen Israelis who were injured
by Kassam rockets from Gaza Arab terrorists during Operation Cast Lead
have filed a lawsuit against Hamas in a Belgian court. The Israelis
are demanding that Belgian authorities issue international arrest
warrants for senior Hamas terrorists, including Khaled Mashaal, Ismail
Haniyeh, Mahmoud a-Zahar, Ahmad Jabbari, and Muhammad Deff. Part of
the case rests upon the Goldstone report, which ruled that Kassam
rocket fire by Hamas was a violation of international law, and that
the court could not ignore the case.
Good luck!

*Swastikas on Walls of Ancient Synagogue near Hevron.** * A group of
Jews, in a rare visit to the ruins of an ancient synagogue in a PA
controlled village southwest of Hevron, was shocked to discover that
swastikas had been scrawled on the walls. (No international outrage.
It was not even covered by the mainstream news! Why is Arab/Muslim
thuggery not news worthy?)
Interestingly, no word from you about anti-Arab and anti-Islamic graffiti, which is left intact for years on the walls of Arab neighborhoods, whose legal residents were forced out by the apartheid Israeli regime.


The Result of Non-Jewish Migration and Political Apathy. 1. The
government discussed imposing limitations on the sale of alcoholic
beverages. Under the proposed rules, individuals under 21 will not be
able to purchase alcoholic beverages, and no sales will be permitted
after 11 PM. In addition, drinking in public places would be
prohibited, and alcohol will be sold only in specially licensed
stores. 2. Five men were stabbed in a mass brawl that broke out in
Kiryat Gat early on Saturday a week ago over music blasting from a
car. ''The husband (of kiosk owner) was stabbed and seriously wounded.
A number of passersby came to his aid, and four more people were
stabbed,'' said a police spokeswoman.
So you are suggesting that only non-Jews drink and commit crimes? How low can you go, you racist low-life?

Hypocrisy of the Headlines.* *

*Israel feels tarnished as critics apply apartheid tag...

* - Why don't Arabs feel 'tarnished' wearing the well deserved tag of
blood-thirsty terrorists, anti-crusaders bigots and heroin pushers?
Where are the headlines about it?
Because there are equally blood-thirsty terrorists among the Jews in this land.

*Opposition to Rabin Bank Note.** *Bank of Israel was asked by Land
of Israel activists to reconsider its decision to put the portrait of
former Prime Minister Yitzchak Rabin on bank notes: "Let it be clearly
understood that Rabin's image was controversial... Rabin caused
inestimable and indescribable damage to the state of Israel." (And it
is conveniently forgotten that Yitzhak Rabin was a Haganah commander
who carried out the attack on the Irgun weapon supply boat, the
Altalena, killing and wounding Jews and sinking the boat, at the time
when Jews needed weapons most!)
This is exactly why the late Rabin deserves a note. He fought against Jewish terrorists who were responsible for the killings of hundreds of innocent Arabs during the period 1931 - 1938. All documented by the Jewish underground Etze"l itself, in the book "Chronicles of the War for Independence," by Yaakov Amrami and Arieh Melitz, 1951.

Avner Efendowicz

An answer to Steven Shamrak, vol. 3

Dear readers,

Below is another response to yet another article I received by email, from Mr. Steven Shamrak.

Mr. Shamrak is a very knowledgeable individual, who runs a very patriotic "pro-Israeli" web site (from Australia), called "Shamrak's report" (www.shamrak.com) .

I embedded my humble response to his claims, marked with yellow highlighting. I hope that you find this interesting, maybe even entertaining.

Arab-Israel Conflict – Forgotten Facts! – Intro1

The term "Palestinian" is itself a masterful twisting of history. To portray themselves as indigenous, Arab settlers adopted the name of an ancient Mediterranean tribe, the Philistines (“Invaders” in Hebrew),

This is BS. There is no connection between "Plishtim" and "Polshim".

1. Nationhood and Jerusalem - Israel became a nation in the 14th century B.C.E. Two thousand years before the rise of Islam.

So?!

2. Since 1272 B.C.E. the Jews have had dominion over the land for up to 1,000 years with a continuous Jewish presence in the land for the past 3,300 years.

So?!

3. The only Arab dominion since the Arab invasion and conquest in 635 C.E. lasted no more than 22 years.

So?!

4. King David founded the city of Jerusalem. Mohammed never came to Jerusalem.

So?!

6. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in Tanach, the Jewish Holy Scriptures. Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran.

Irrelevant.

7. Jews pray facing Jerusalem. Muslims pray facing Mecca (often with their backs toward Jerusalem).

Don’t confuse Muslims with Palestinians. Many Palestinians are Christians. How is this relevant?

15. Did you know that Saudi Arabia was not created until 1913, Lebanon until 1920? Iraq did not exist as a nation until 1932, Syria until 1941; the borders of Jordan were established in 1946 and Kuwait in 1961. Any of these nations that would say Israel is only a recent arrival would have to deny their own rights as recent arrivals as well. They did not exist as countries. They were all under the control of the Turks. Over 80% of the original British Mandate land was given to Arabs without population transfer of Arabs from the land designated for Jews.

Did you know that the US was created in 1776? And on the expense of thousands of "Indians"?

How is this relevant? The only thing that matters is - that there were Palestinians in the land before the Zionists came.

16. In 1947, the Jewish state huddled on 18% of the original British Mandate land. The Jews accepted it gratefully. The Arabs rejected it with a vengeance and seven Arab states immediately declared war against Israel.

That is actually True.

17. In 1948, the Arab refugees were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaders promising to purge the land of Jews. Most of them left in fear of being killed by their own Arab brothers as traitors.

Not entirely true. Arab leaders did urge them to leave, but many were forced to leave by the Zionist forces.

18. Some 850,000 Jewish refugees were forced to flee from Arab countries, due to Arab brutality, persecution and pogroms.

They don't want to go back there, they don't see them as their homes.

19. The number of Arab refugees who left Israel in 1948 is claimed to be around 630,000 (where did they get this number?) maybe from the same source which gave you the number 1272 B.C. (nobody knows that for sure).

Propagandists of the whole World, Unite!

24. There is only one Jewish state. There are 60 Muslim countries, including 22 Arab nations.

This is like saying that there are 105 Christian countries, and 10 English-speaking nations.

You are nothing but a racist if you include all Muslims in the same category.

25. The PLO's Charter still calls for the destruction of the State of Israel.

Not true.

26. Pan-Arabism or the doctrine of Muslim Caliphate declares that all land that used to belong to Muslims must be returned to them. Thus, Spain, for example, must eventually be re-conquered.

Excellent example of how irrelevant all this is. Is there a war between Spain and any Arab country? People can have aspirations to every crazy idea, but they can live in peace at the same time because they leave their aspirations at home when they go to do business with other people. That’s applicable for the Hamas, Fatah, and the crazy Jews who want to rebuild the Temple.

An answer to Steven Shamrak, vol. 2

In a response to an article entitled “Message to anti-Israel Objectors,” yours truly wrote:

"I make it a habit to read every email I receive about Middle Eastern politics. I do it mainly to be educated about new facts, as well as to listen to opinions may challenge my own ones.
However, I have never read an article so full of lies, half-truths, racism, ignorance and disconnection from reality, as this one, in my entire life. For this reason, I don't have the time to even begin to respond to these shortcomings."


To which Mr. Shamrak responded:
Dear Avner,
Re: "however, I have never read an article so full of lies" - Could you come with one or two examples of lie, please?
Best regards.
Steven shamrak


Of course I could:

"Here is one example:
"When we show you factual proof that so-called Palestinians are a fake nation and are actually the occupiers of Jews’ land..."

This is a lie, because nobody can show any "proof". In the best case, you can state your own interpretation of the facts, which you are absolutely entitled to do, and I would respect your interpretation. The facts are that people who call themselves "Palestinians" have been living on this land some time before the Zionists came. Everything in the previous sentence is a mere fact, which you can't deny: they lived here, they call themselves "Palestinians", etc. Everything else is an interpretation. So you are lying when you say that you can prove anything.

But the worst part for you, is that you are not lying to me or to the Palestinians. In your case, you are lying to yourself, because you disregard the political and humanistic problem, and dismiss it as "anti-Semitism". When you do that, you (actually, we in Israel) are doomed to suffer from the history repeating itself, because we refuse to learn from it.
By stating that there is no Palestinian nation, and hoping for their disappearing (or worse, for their annihilation by military power, or by slow and quiet Transfer which is happening at this moment) - you are damaging the security of Jews in Israel and also around the world. This conflict is on going because we are hoping for it to just go away, which only makes it worse and makes life in Israel insecure. Jews around the world suffer from hatred for many reasons, but the policy of the Israeli government is among its major ones.

Avner"

משחק השבוע: דרשוביץ נגד פינקלשטיין

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=247803848714490692&hl=en&emb=1#

יוצא מהכלל
הלוואי שאפשר היה לקיים דיון כזה בישראל

קראתי את ספרו של דרשוביץ, ושמעתי על פינקלשטיין
לפי מה שידעתי, השניים שונאים זה את זה בנפש, עד כדי כך שדרשוביץ פעל, באופן לא אקדמי ומאד לא ליברלי, לפיטוריו של פינקלשטיין מאוניברסיטת דה-פול. כמו כן פינקלשטיין סורב להיכנס לישראל, בניגוד לחוק השבות, ומבלי שעבר כל עבירה
הוא נפגש בלבנון עם אנשי חיזבאללה, אבל הוא לא יודע שום סודות אז אין כאן עבירה על שום חוק

מדהים היה לראות איך שניים אלה יכולים להתדיין באולפן אחד באופן יהודי כל כך, מתוך מחלוקת אך ללא התשוקה לחנוק, המאפיין את הדיונים בטלויזיה בישראל. ברור שאין שם אהבה אבל הורגש מין סוג של הערכה הדדית, שהוא ערך יהודי נושן שאבד לנו בלהט הכיבוש

באשר לדעתי, אני מעריך את דעותיו של דרשוביץ כאותנטיות והגונות. הוא באמת שמאלני שנחלץ להגן על ישראל (למעשה, על ממשלת ישראל) בגלל מה שבעיניו הוא ביקורת בלתי הוגנת
למרות זאת, ולמרות שפינקלשטיין הוא המעצבן מבין השניים, אני נוטה יותר אליו מאשר לפרופסור מהרווארד
מעבר לויכוח הקטנוני אם דרשוביץ ביטא נכון את שמו של המנסח השני של החלטה 242, יש לדרשוביץ שגיאה בסיסית בתפיסת הסכסוך
והיא התבטאה בצטטו את קביעתה המושמצת של גולדה מאיר על הערבים שמכריחים אותנו להרוג אותם; בהבחנה השגויה שהוא עושה בין הרג מכוון של אזרחים להרג לא מכוון; בקביעתו שאזרחים פלסטיניים יכולים להיות תומכי טרור, בשעה שאזרחים יהודיים תמימים אינם כאלה; אפילו בקביעתו שהעיתונים מעריב וידיעות הם מבקרים חריפים של השלטון בישראל - קביעה מופרכת

בכל מקרה, הישארו בארה"ב, מקום שלפחות מאפשר דיונים פוליטיים עיניניים

An answer to Steven Shamrak, vol. 1

Dear readers,

Below is a response to an article I received by email, from Mr. Steven Shamrak.

Mr. Shamrak is a very knowledgeable individual, who runs a very patriotic "pro-Israeli" web site (from Australia), called "Shamrak's report" (http://www.shamrak.com/ .

If you read further, you will figure out for yourselves why I put "pro-Israeli" in big quotes.

I embedded my humble response to his claims, marked with yellow highlighting. I hope that you find this interesting, maybe even entertaining.

Why is Israel Suspicious of United Nations?

1. Before 1990, Security Council passed 175 resolutions, 97 were directed against Israel (It is 55% of all resolutions).

2. Before 1990, UN General Assembly voted on 690 resolutions, 429 were directed against Israel (It is 62% of all resolutions).

Where did you take those numbers from?

regardless, I agree that the UN is biased against Israel.

That doesn't mean, from a logical point of view, that Israel is innocent.

3. The UN was silent when Jordanians destroyed 58 Synagogues in Jerusalem.

4. The UN was silent while the Jordanians systematically desecrated the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives.

5. The UN was silent while the Jordanians enforced an apartheid-like policy of preventing Jews from visiting the Temple Mount and the Western Wall.

6. The UN was silent while for 18 months Israel was terrorized by indiscriminate suicide bombing campaign unleashed by PA leadership.

7. There are 60 Muslims countries in the UN. As well as many more are others Arab oil dependant states.

This is is like saying that over 100 Christian countries should take care of refugees from Ruanda (they are Catholic).

8. Israel is the ONLY MEMBER OF THE UN THAT IS NOT PERMITTED MEMBERSHIP ON THE SECURITY COUNCIL.

That is not true. you must be meaning that Israel WAS the only country not belonging to any geographical group from which members are selected. But since 2000 Israel is a temporary member of Western Europe.

9. Israel is the only country excluded from the U.N.'s regional group system… Since Israel does not belong to any group, it is the only country of 190 member states that is not eligible to serve on the numerous U.N. commissions…

See 8. above.

10. In recent years, the U.N. Commission on Human Rights has annually passed five resolutions condemning Israel. This year, they passed seven. By contrast, each of the following countries/regions has been the subject of only one resolution: Afghanistan, Burundi, Congo, Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Myanmar, Russia/Chechnya, Sierra Leone, Southeast Europe and Sudan…

11. Nov. 29 is the United Nations Day of International Solidarity with the Palestinian People. No other people has a U.N. Day of Solidarity…

12. Israel is the only state to which a special investigator with "an open-ended mandate to inspect its human rights record" is assigned by the U.N.

13. It is the only state targeted by two special committees and special units of the U.N. Secretariat ostensibly devoted to the Palestinians but in reality dedicated to Israel-bashing worldwide, costing millions of dollars a year.

14. UNIFIL, the U.N. force stationed on the Israel-Lebanon border, hid a videotape of Israeli soldiers being abducted by Hezbollah in October 2000. After finally admitting to having the tape, the U.N. would only show an edited version (in which Hezbollah faces were hidden) to the Israeli government.

15. UNESCO, in Paris, began passing resolutions about protection of Jerusalem holy sites and access for Muslims in 1968. No resolutions about protection or Jewish access were passed from 1946 to 1967 when Jordan controlled Jerusalem and barred Jews from entering…

It is Time to "Leave Egypt"

by Steven Shamrak - August 31, 2002

It is Time to "Leave Egypt". I respect people who do not know and do not care about Arab-Israel conflict. They are honest enough to admit that paying bills and raising children is more important for them. At the same time, there is a danger when someone forms opinions under the influence of selectively presented information, provided by generally bias toward Israel in the press. People become attached to the belief system they have adopted and it is difficult to change it. I would like to tell them following:

1. Israel is on a front line of the war between Arab-Muslim expansionism and Western democracy. This war has already shifted to America and Europe.

2. According to UN own legal opinion: Judea, Samaria and Gaza does not belong to any country at the moment. Therefore, it is wrong to call them ‘Occupied territories’. They used to be a part of Jewish land. There was never Arab country in the Palestine.

Irrelevant.

3. So-called Palestinians are Arabs who moved to the territories during the last 130 year, after the Jews started re-vitalizing the land.

Irrelevant.

4. Arabs have no intention to live in peace with Jews.

This is racism.

5. Arabs respect charisma and strong leadership. It is the time for Israel and her government to show it and stop terror.

This is even worse racism.

6. Enemies and so-called friends have never treated Jewish people as equal. They will never support Israel unconditionally, They do not respect facts where Israel is concern (remember so-called Jenin massacre).

No one should support nobody "unconditionally". In fact, this is the biggest sin of American Jewery, for which many of them feel deep regrets, facing the acts of the Israeli governement.

7. After 54 years of wars and terror, it is time to “leave Egypt”, become an Independent nation, equal among equals. It is time to regain self-respect. No more double standards!

8. Israel was created to fulfill 2000 years old national inspiration of Jewish people. The time is Now!

Goal and Strategy of Islam.

by Steven Shamrak

September 11 and Bali bombing, unfortunately, did not bring the understanding of politics of Islam to the Western homes. Only after Madrid bombing population of the Western countries is coming out of the lethargic sleep. Too much attention was given to Arab-Israel conflict during the last 50 years. Too much responsibility for global terror committed by Muslim terrorists is blamed on Israel. Information about the real source of the conflict is still being concealed from the public.

According to Former Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Arens, Islam has a simple and direct four-point plan for establishing eventual world dominance. All steps are being implemented simultaneously:

1. Totally destroy and eliminate Israel as a country.

2. Defeat or neutralize the power of the United States by terrorism and world opinion. Destroy their will to stand-alone.

3. Bring all Muslim Nations into an Islamic Theocracy such as Iran.

4. Infiltrate all major European Countries, Canada, US and Australia with Islamic immigrants.

Moshe Arens is an aeronautic engineer. his knowledge about Islam is no better than anybody else's (but I still respect his views, he is one of very few honest persons in Israel's Right wing).

World domination of Islam is the Goal. It is time to realize it. The war is global. It had started when Mohamed began spreading “the true religion” around the world, some thirteen hundred year ago. It is the war for survival of Western civilization and Israel is just caught in the middle of the fight between two giant religious ideologies.

For hundreds of years, in the "middle ages", Islam was the culture of enlightenment, science and humanity, while Christianity, especially Catholicism, represented the worst type human persecution and cruelty.

today things have turned around to some extent (Christinan countries such as the US are still involved in large scale terrorism), but this has nothing to do with Religion.

מה קורה פה, רבנים מתנצלים על פיגוע יהודי

ידידי יאיר כותב לי

http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3818985,00.html

הסימטריה הופרה, מה קורה פה אבנר

אני לא זוכר משלחת מוסלמית דומה שביקשה לבקר בישיבת מרכז הרב. ובבקשה לא להגיד לי שאם היו
מבקרים שם, היו הורגים אותם, אני אפילו לא זוכר גינוי אחד מאושיה דתית מוסלמית



ובכן
זה בדיוק העניין שהצבעתי עליו
האינטרס הברור של המתנחלים הוא להציג את הפורעים כעשבים שוטים ומגונים
זה מאפשר להם להמשיך במאמץ הנואש שלהם להישאר בקונסנזוס
לממשלת ישראל הפושעת יש אינטרס זהה, כדי להצטייר כמתונה ושוחרת שלום. כדי שסגן שר הביטחון יופיע ויצהיר שהממשלה תאכוף את החוק וכולם ימחאו כפיים, וימשיכו להרגיש טוב עם עצמם בשעה שבמרחק של חצי שעה, הכיבוש ממשיך באין מפריע: פקחים פוחדים להסתובב בהתנחלויות, צווים נקרעים לעיני המצלמה, מאחזים "לא חוקיים" לא מפונים במשך שנים, ופעילים לא אלימים נעצרים על ידי הצבא כדי שלא יפגינו נגד הגדר

שימו לב לכותרת המאמר. הפרעות בכפר יאסוף הם המתנה היפה ביותר שהכיבוש קיבל לחג החנוכה

יאיר, העובדה שאתה לא זוכר גינויים מהצד הפלסטיני מיוחסת יותר לחוסר ידיעה או חוסר זיכרון
חוץ מזה, הרבה יותר קל לשולט ולחזק להתנצל. נראה אותך מתנצל אחרי שזכויותיך וכבודך נרמסים במשך עשרות שנים