Showing posts with label Democratic Party. Show all posts
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Sunday, May 23, 2021

Should US Jews vote for the Democrat Party?

May 23, 2021, Udi Schayat <udischayat@yahoo.com>:

US Democrats blocked a vote of support for Israel. GOP 209. Democrats 217.

foxnews.com/politics/house-democrats-block-bill-sanctioning-hamas-financial-supporters

A critical low moment in US-Israel relations.

Democrat House members have openly supported an Islamic terror regime that initiated a prolonged missile attack against Israel....."---this is the correct title and headline for this news [my note: Democrats are the favorites of too many stupid Americans Jewish and other young ideologists- watch this Islam history great summary on Facebook]-

PLEASE FORWARD (out of "Stephen" group)



STEPHEN GOLUB <golubstephen@yahoo.com>:

Will not matter to the Liberals. They will ignore the fact and/or rationalize it somehow!!



Myron Sugerman <charming@eclipse.net>:

For our Liberal Jews on our thread including Barry Wolfensohn, Ben Zinkin, Robert Katz, Avner, Gerald, Doc Brick and any others I failed to mention…………I have this question

Does The vote to block support for Israel give Jews who vote for the Democrat Party reason to continue to support the Democrat Party or does it give Jews reason to stop supporting the Democrat Party and to start supporting the Republican Party which voted without an exception to support Israel?



I wrote:

Since you listed my name among the addressees of your question - Sure, any vote for stopping the massive support of the Israeli occupation is an excellent reason to vote for the Democrats.

The State of Israel pretends to be a "Startup Nation" (I work for a startup company in Tel-Aviv), that sustains itself so brilliantly - why does it need the USA's support in the first place?! Plus, Israel has Say'ata De-Shemaya - why does it need help like a sorry panhandler?...

If it's for diplomatic and political support (rather than economical) against the "Anti-Semtis" - all the more so! Stop defending the Israeli apartheid!

The truth is, that Israel under Netanyahu is a weak, divided society, with major problems in education, economy, transportation, etc., and it cannot maintain its evil oppression of the Palestinians for long, all by itself.

So, I pray for the day that a moral administration will rise and put a stop for funding the occupation - this will be the beginning of a much better era for the State of Israel, that will have been saved from its own Folly.

Cheers,

Avner E.



Myron Sugerman:

But it was Golda Meir who was known to say "with who can we go to the Table to talk?" How many times can you give somebody a chance to be at least a neighbor but that's not enough to satisfy - The guy wants you dead and wants your property on top of your demise -? By the way is it accurate what we saw Israeli Arabs attacking Israeli Jews? Maybe you can clarify all of this for us!




I wrote:

Yes, of course we saw Arabs attacking Jews.

As I told you: the new appointee for the chief of police made the unfortunate statement that "there are terrorists on both sides". By this, he stated the truth, that Jews attacked innocent Arabs as well. But this was too much for Mr. Ohana, the servant who appointed the chief in order to protect his master, Netanyahu (after the previous one, Alsheikh, also a Netanyahu appointee - refused to yield!) Ohana demanded an apology from the chief for saying that.


Regarding Golda: I am all for women in power. My wife would make a much better PM than the current SOB. But Golda, she was offered a peace agreement with Egypt in 1970, in exchange for the peninsula of Sinai. The stupid, common woman refused even to send her envoy, Dr. Goldman, who wanted to go to Egypt to discuss it. Nine years later (and 2,900 Israeli dead soldiers later, thousands injured, disabled, PTSD from the Worst war ever, to this day) - Menachem Begin gave back the same Sinai, for the same terms of peace. A peace treaty that proved stable for the past 42 years, one of Israel's biggest security assets (How would you talk to Hamas for a cease fire without the Egyptians?!)

Talk about given chances for peace!

Cheers,

Avner E.


Dr. Nahum Goldmann

Wednesday, February 3, 2021

Lunatic Americans, vol. 3

Biden appoints ANOTHER rabid anti-Semite, this one to key civil rights post at DOJ

 

Full dossier with links to original source material below.         

Nominee for Asst. Attorney General for Civil Rights Division Kristin Clarke is a Racist, Jew-Hater, Israel-Hater - Withdraw This Horrific Nomination

https://zoa.org/2021/01/10442018-nominee-for-asst-attorney-general-for-civil-rights-division-kristin-clarke-is-a-racist-jew-hater-israel-hater-withdraw-this-horrific-nomination/

1-14-21: The ZOA urges president-elect Biden to immediately withdraw his nomination of racist Jew-hater Kristin Clarke to serve as Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights, - - - (see the link above)

 

 

Jan 20, 2021, I wrote:

So, to you, everyone who refuses to cooperate with the criminal Israeli occupation is anti-Semitic?!...

What a sorry level of arguments.

It won't help you - Israel will be forced to end its evil acts against the Palestinians. We will see to that, with the help of Joe Biden.

Cheers,

Avner E.

 

 

January 20, 2021, Shirley Lewis <slewis1667@gmail.com>:

Anti Semitism is not a Left/Right issue.  It is a human rights for Jews/civil rights for Jews issue.  If you take the time to read the dossier in full you will see there is much more to her anti-Semitism then objection to Israel's policies.  There must be thousands of non anti-Semitic Democrats that would like to serve in the Administration. Biden appointing this one and the two others signals that the endemic anti-Semitism of today's Democratic Party has been normalized.

 

 

I wrote:

Thanks for your quick reply.

 Can you refer me to just one evidence of anti-Semitism in this piece?

 Because, for example, if I take just the first of your arguments: "the so-called Sages of the Babylonian Talmud were the earliest racists of recorded history - based on a number of years of daily studying the Talmud, in its original-written language - I can confirm that this statement is correct. I can refer you to some horrible examples, if you want.

Based on what the Right is referring to as "anti-Semitism", I came to the conclusion that there is hardly any anti-Semitism in the US today at all.

Here is just one example, out of hundreds:

הכשר שבגוים, בשעת מלחמה - הרוג

"The most Kosher of all Gentiles, at times of war you must kill." - Talmud Yerushalmi, Kiddushin, ch. 4, section 14.

(not just your enemy, who comes to kill you - even "the most Kosher" - meaning, the best of all Gentiles!)

Cheers,

Avner E.

 

 

January 21, 2021, Shirley Lewis <slewis1667@gmail.com>:

Read in full like I did and you will find. Everyone else did. I know it is long but if this subject interests you will will see it because it slaps you in the face.  You can start by reading the subject headings and then go back to read in full.

 

 

I wrote:

OK, Ms. Lewis, I have read it all.

Other than one exception, I tend to agree, or strongly agree, with everything else that Ms. Clarke said or wrote. What a brave an diligent young woman!!

The exception: (2) Clarke Espoused Racist Black Superiority Racial Theories.

But who is perfect?...

(1) is correct, as I already said.

(3) BDS will have appeared to be one of the factors in ending Israel's oppression of the Palestinians.

(4) young Arabs who throw rocks at Israelis truly embody “the definition of courage”; I've seen it in my own eyes, as an officer in the IDF in the occupied territories.

(try to fight against one of most modernly equipped armies, which is constantly acting to cooperate with the Jewish settlers, and you'll see for yourself how much courage it takes).

(7) “Palestine Legal,” and JVP are Anti-Israel?!... When I lived in California, I have met many JVP activists. They are NOT anti-Israel.

(11) is correct to say.

(12) Victimizing Trumps defender?... oh, well. They earned it.

(13) Illegal Pizza?!?... Come on...

Cheers,

Avner E.

 

 

Feb 3, 2021, Norman cohen <ishahrofah@gmail.com>:

In the USA today, anti-Semitism from the right is a proverbial fart in a windstorm compared to anti-Semitism from the left.

 Wherever it comes from, it can be stopped if Jews would stop with their self-destructive intermarrage and assimilation.

        Anti-Semitism has not and never will wipe out the Jews.

        Only the Jews can do that.

Today, it is a problem that comes from the Jewish left.


                                       Norman

 

 

I wrote:

Relax, nobody hates you for being Jewish!... Maybe they just despise you for being so stupid, but not more than that.

You are not that significant to be hated. Take a breath.

Cheers,

Avner E.


Monday, February 1, 2021

Lunatic Americans, vol. 1

Somewhat involuntarily, I joined this email list of what seems to be Trump-supporting Jewish women and man. That is, an email from one of them, Ms. Lewis, landed in my inbox, without me ever giving my email address to anyone. Nu, Shoin, I joined the enlightened conversation, nonetheless.

Here is the first thread. A number of threads on similar topics will follow.

 

Every Congressional anti-Semite is a Democrat

January 21, 2021, Shirley Lewis <slewis1667@gmail.com>:

Any Republican counterparts to Jews-kill-Pal Arabs-like-birds-of-prey Warnock?  Any Republican counterparts to Omar and Tlaib.  What about all those Democrats who signed on to HR 2407, the house resolution based on the blood libel that Jews abuse Pal Arab children. Only Democrats sponsored and co-sponsored.

I would like to know if there are any Republican Congressioanl anti-Semitic counterparts to all these anti-Semitic Democrats so I can tell RJC who will make sure the Repub anti-Semites are primary-ed out. Jewish Democratic Council of America is more than happy to have Democratic Party anti-Semites serve in Congress. As a matter of fact, it has a hand in normalizing Congressional anti-Semitism.

So, any names of Republican counterparts to Warnock, Omar, Tlaib, let me know.

 

 

I wrote:

The willingness to accept that Arabs are equally human = Anti-Semitism?

Unwillingness to go along with the selfish and criminal policy of the Israeli government = Anti-Semitism?

If so, then there is no Anti-Semitism in this world at all.

And if there is - here is one reason why:



https://www.timesofisrael.com/police-use-stun-grenades-to-clear-haredi-mob-who-torched-bus-at-lockdown-protest/

Cheers,

Avner E.

 

 

January 29, 2021, Debbie Schlussel <writedebbie@gmail.com>:

Shirley:

Normally I don't respond to this dumb list I never asked to be on.

But you're so full of shit and you know it and have admitted it to me in e-mails. You admitted to me that you know you're a liar.  I have been the first one to call out Rashida Tlaib years ago before you ever heard of her.  But here are three Republican anti-Semites in Congress (only a lying jackass would say every anti-Semite in Congress is Dem - you are as bad as the dumbass Jewish liberals and a complete fool):  Marjorie Taylor Greene (who says a Jewish Satellite from space started California forest fires and that Zionists are behind illegal alien immigration), Jihad Darrell Issa (who said how sweet Yasser Arafat is that he lets you taste his food and said 9/11 was "just a plane crash," that HAMAS is just a political group of farmers, and that Hezbollah is a mainstream nice group of guys (who he was heard on surveilled phone calls giving US intelligence to), and Thomas Massie (who hates Israel and Jews), plus there used to be Justin Amash (also a Jew-hating Palestinian and Israel-hater).  So just stop with your lies.

DS

 

 

I wrote:

Nice, but - you are making the same (wrong) point:

Criticizing the policy of the Israeli government (not criticizing Israel!!) = Anti-Semitism.

 

Cheers,

Avner E.

 

 

January 29, 2021, Debbie Schlussel <writedebbie@gmail.com>:

Because I don't agree with you and you are wrong.  Almost all critics of Israel in American politics are open antii-Semites who hide behind that baloney reasoning:  that they are only anti-Israel and not anti-Semites.

 

 

I wrote:

If they hide their true opinions - then how do YOU know them?...

I admire people who are capable to "judge righteously, and test the heart and mind" (Jeremiah 11:20) - in the Hebrew original, "test the Kidney and Heart".... but whatever.

Cheers,

Avner E.

 

 

January 29, 2021, Uri Yosef <uriyosef@yahoo.com>:

Shalom Avner,

Why do you even bother to engage with those morons & racists - it's a waste of time and effort.  I did my shtick before the November elections and shortly thereafter, but once Joe Biden was sworn in as President #46, I stopped.  The Trumplicans are a brain-washed cult that will probably stick with him even if he winds up in prison.

Shabbat Shalom!

Uri

 

 

I wrote:

Shalom to you as well, dear Uri!

I have many reasons as you said to disconnect and disengaged from these stupid and racist emails.

On the other hand, I have a number of reasons to take action and write my response. One of the reasons is - just to release some steam, anger and frustration. To be able to throw digital mud at people you have never met.... that's not nice, but sometimes feels good, if I want to be perfectly honest.

Anther reason is intellectual or shall I say debate-oriented. We in Israel don't get trained for this important skill, as students in the US do (one of the reasons that Israelis are really terrible debaters). So this is my chance to practice the trade.

Anyway, hoping to change anybody's mind is NOT among the reasons I reply. I don't have the slightest hope to influence anybody. With that I totally agree with you!

In my opinion, this world has become too rational-less and fake-driven to bother about logic any more. That is, until a real disaster strikes (nature-forbid).

I wish you stay safe and healthy, and have a great weekend.

Cheers,

Avner E.

 

 

Jan 29, 2021, Norman cohen <ishahrofah@gmail.com>:

Too many Arabs do not behave like humans.

That has been going on for centuries.

    Ishmael is a "wild ass of a man", remember?

Still true today.

 

Efendowitz, eh?

   Are you the son of an Efendi ?

Turks are not Arabs.

     Myron --- "Shlussel" is all "locked up" in her anger.

                             Norman

 

 

I wrote:

"Too many Arabs do not behave like humans. That has been going on for centuries."

"Centuries" - that is correct. It has been like this for a few decades now, so roughly 0.5 of a century.

But 8 centuries ago, the Islam was the most advanced culture, scientifically and philosophically. It was the Catholic church that impeded and censored science for more that a millennium.

Nowadays, in part, it's ultra-orthodox Jews, who represent the Core values of Judaism, such the ones who burnt down the bus in the photo below. They are the science and reason-deniers of 2021.

Cheers,

Avner E.

 

 

Norman cohen <ishahrofah@gmail.com>:

Avner has not only a distorted and narrow view of history,

he shows himself to be a self-hating Jew.

                                                  Norman

 

 

I wrote:

Again - to my detailed and reasoned reply - you can bring even one piece of argument. Just name calling. I don't expect you to agree - just bring a valid argument.

If it's of any help - I will bring you some! There are a few good arguments for your stance. But obviously, you don't understand or know them.

So typical to Right-wing people.

Cheers,

Avner E.

 

 

January 31, 2021, Norman cohen <ishahrofah@gmail.com>:

There is no further argument because it it useless to speak with confirmed fools.

     I already revealed the tree.

     Avner is mired in his forest.

                                          Norman

 

 

I wrote:

Maybe just one small argument? Reasoning? Something?

Something you said on the thread, and I missed?

Ooops... it seems that those terms are not familiar to the right-wingers.

"Anyone who disqualifies others, disqualifies with his own flaw" (Talmud Bavli Kidushin, 70 page 1; Rambam Isurei Bi'a 19, 17)

So, the fool is you, Norman, according to the Sages.

Cheers,

Avner E.

 

 

January 31, 2021, Ryan Silver <rls198011@gmail.com>:

Yet sometimes people, groups and others who WANT TO KILL you and or DESTROY your FREEDOMS needs to be DISQUALIFIED!

Avner, is your nose still intact or have you cut if off in spite of your own face?

Sincerely,

Ryan L. Silver

 

 

I wrote:

Once again, morons:

Can I have maybe just one small argument? Reasoning? Something?

Something you said on the thread, and I missed?

I take it that you guys on the Right won't recognize a piece of Logic if it was stuck up your face.

 

Cheers,

Avner E.

 

 

January 31, 2021, STEPHEN GOLUB <golub413@yahoo.com>:

Avner- Fine with me. Disqualify me right now!! I guess I am plenty flawed. However, I  thank the Lord at least  I am not a sick, suicidal delusional stooge Liberal!

 

 

I wrote:

And why do you think that I am a sick, suicidal delusional stooge? Can you give a solid argument for that?

(Ooops... I should ask first: do you even know what "argument" means?)

Cheers,

Avner E.

 

 

January 31, 2021, STEPHEN GOLUB <golub413@yahoo.com>:

I did not  specifically say you were! Guilty Conscience??

 

 

I wrote:

I am a Liberal, and my opinions are detailed below.

How am I different from the other Liberals?... I also want to be called "sick and stooge"! (have no idea what that is, but coming from you guys it sounds like a compliment).

Cheers,

Avner E.

 

 

January 31, 2021, Norman cohen <ishahrofah@gmail.com>:

I think you need to learn context.

      You trip over your own foolishness in order to justify your idol-worship.

 

I pick pickles out of the barrel.

      You get peppercorns.

 

                             Norman

 

 

I wrote:

Can you give me one example? Just one.

Cheers,

Avner E.

 

 

February 1, 2021, STEPHEN GOLUB <golub413@yahoo.com>:

Mr. E-Of course you are a Liberal. Only a Liberal could have such illogical delusions. Your Policies have failed here in the USA totally! You placed us in debt for 26+ Trillions, not one of your  programs work  efficiently , and  all are close to bankrupt! You Liberals destroyed the Government School systems, turning out brainwashed , illiterate ,vacuous , brats! Liberals start and  fight no win wars for peace that never comes! You Liberals  carry out the full Big Government surrender to the UN program, of the Globalist Insiders of the CFR, the Tri-Lateral Commission and of the Bilderbergers! Now  you ask if you are a stooge??You ask for more of the same and wonder why you are called sick? You see your Nation collapsing in front of you,&  help the collapse with your Policies  wondering  if you are suicidal???? Delusional is a compliment when one considers just how sick the Liberal is!!!

 You stooges think you are smarter than the rest ,and think you are  some sort of an"Intellectual", with a sheepskin on the Wall, and a NY Times          ( CFR-Bilderberger)  under your arm!!

 So sick, suicidal  delusional stooges!! (Look stooge up. You're an "Intellectual" are you not)???

 

 

I wrote:

OK, and now for some evidence? References? Facts? Logic? Arguments?

That's too much to ask from stupid Conservatives.

(Smart Conservatives could live up to the challenge, but there are not many of them left under Trump).

Cheers,

Avner E.

 

 

February 1, 2021, Charles Jacobs <charlesjacobs123@gmail.com>:

This from a man who says Jews are just like Muslims when it comes to terror, cruelty, murder……

and who ran away when asked for “evidence, references, facts, logic, etc?”

Charles Jacobs

 

 

February 1, 2021, STEPHEN GOLUB <golub413@yahoo.com>:

Mr. E-I gave you facts. You are a failure. Liberalism is a total failure. Nothing you or your Big Government has done works properly or efficiently! You want more facts??? What about? The Conspiracy. Easy to prove.  Some of the top even admit it!

 

 

I wrote:

Let's go back to 8th grade for a few minutes:

 

"Liberalism is a total failure" - is not a Fact. It's an Opinion. (it may be true! but not an established Fact).

 

"Nothing you or your Big Government has done works properly or efficiently!" - is not a fact either.

2+2=4 is a Fact (were you present when this was taught, Moron?)

Also: "In a poll conducted by <aaa>, 90% of scholars with PhD in the field of <bbb>, think that ..... " - this is a Fact.

Now, can you show me one Fact supporting you interesting opinion?

 

 

February 1, 2021, Harry Zimmerman <harryzimmie@gmail.com>:

When your Shmeckle leaves your head and is replaced by your brain, please let me know.

 

 

I wrote:

Another typical "argument" made by another typical redneck.

 

Cheers,

Avner E.

 

 

February 1, 2021, STEPHEN GOLUB <golub413@yahoo.com>:

" Some even believe we are part of a SECRET Cabal working against the best interest of the US, Characterizing my family and me as Internationalists, and of CONSPIRING with others around the World to build a more integrated global, political, and economic structure, ONE WORLD if you will. If that's the Charge, I stand GUILTY , and I am PROUD of it "!!

 David Rockefeller in his Book 2002 Memoirs !!

" The real rulers in Washington are invisible, and exercise power from behind the scenes"!  Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter !!

 

 

I wrote:

And what are some evidence facts that they (R. and F.) showed?

You see: in order to claim something and be persuasive (to "prove", as it is know in exact science), you have to bring some objective evidence.

Cheers,

Avner E.