Armageddon Days, or: Thoughts about Trump

I received this piece from my email-pal A***, who lives in California:

Hello Avner

It has been a long time since our last communication.

It looks like it has been a hectic time: a lot has occurred. Trump presidency has been full of action. I am sure that you are following the news. He had a lot of problems at the beginning but now it looks like his staff has somewhat stabilized. He has a lot of resistance from many parts of the government, and as you know he is still under investigation, but recently he has been involved in some bold decisions, like the bombing in Syria, and his last action in regards to the negotiation with N. Korea, and his bold act to exit the agreement with Iran. It looks to me that all of this could end very well, for the US and the rest of the world.

So what is new with you? How are you doing at your work? As I understand the feeling in Israel must be very good now. What did you do for the independence day? It appears that Israel economy has been growing very nicely and I wonder what effect this has in the living standard in the country.

In the US the economy has picked up quite nicely, and the employment situation has been better like never before. However, it looks odd, that the salaries  have not been growing, as one would expect, which is a riddle. What is the situation in Israel in this respect?

So I wish you well, and would like to know how are you doing and what is happening is Israel.

(signed)

A***

To which I replied:

Hi A***,

I don't quite share your views about Trump, as well as the situation in Israel. But of course, I may be wrong (note: this is a phrase which is NEVER said by any conservative speaker - which I think is a major part of the problem). If I'm wrong, then I will admit it and will be very happy. As opposed to the speakers from the Right - I'm willing to put specific metrics to this statement.

In brief:

Trump has not yet achieved anything. Iran can only gain from the US exit from the agreement. The improvement of the US economy is mainly thanks to Obama's policy. Economy of this size cannot be turned over by 1.5 years of being in office.

Trump did not really make any difference in Syria - his order to bomb it was very minor. Israel has bombed Syria heavily, but nobody really knows how this will end - but this doesn't prevent the cheer leaders of Netanyahu (who are, at this moment, the entire Jewish population, like a bunch of miserable WWF viewers) to pump his approval rate. I think that he will be remembered as the worst Israeli PM ever - and mind you, there is a tough competition there.

I can't say anything about the future (I live that to the smart asses of the Right), but I can point out the past. Too many times in this region, military campaigns started with great enthusiasm and anticipation - just to end up as catastrophes.

I am doing well at work. The economy is only good for the upper 10% - 20% of Israelis, which includes my family so I shouldn't care. But I do care, because I think that the other 80% also count.

So in short, I foresee a catastrophe, and if I'm proven wrong, I will be very happy.

Take care and hand in there.

Cheers,
Avner E.

The Demagogues Hit (Again)

Here is another thread of a discussion I had with a hard-to-get-it guy.

The conversation commenced with the following piece about a horrible terror attack in a Jewish settlement.

The scene of Friday night’s terror attack in Halamish. Photo Credit: Israel "Defense" (my quotes... A.E.) Forces

http://blogs.timesofisrael. com/the-world-must-see-this-2/

The world must see this

by Eli Rubenstein, JULY 22, 2017

The picture below is the scene of Friday night’s terror attack in Neve

Tzuf, a small Israeli town in the Judean Hills. What started as a

family Shabbat dinner left a father, son, and daughter dead and a

mother in critical condition after a teenage Palestinian terrorist

entered the home and began stabbing the family members while children

hid in a closet. Were it not for the miracle of an IDF soldier nearby

who neutralized the terrorist, the incident would have been much more

horrific than it already is.

The world must see this picture; a picture which, in another reality

at the same time and place could have shown a family enjoying their

Shabbat dinner. Instead, you see blood from terror victims covering

the kitchen floor.

The world must see how this terrorist will be venerated in Palestinian

society. When word broke of the attack in Gaza, celebrations took

place in the street. Soon, his family will start receiving payments

from the Palestinian Authority, which in 2016 payed $170 million to

terrorists and their families. Maybe, years from now, he will have a

square named after him, like Khaled Nazzal, who killed 26 Israelis

after taking schoolchildren and their teachers hostage in the Ma’alot

Massacre, or Dalal Mughrabi, who killed 38 civilians after hijacking

two buses and throwing grenades at cars passing by.

The world must realize how the terrorist, a young person who at one

point must have had hopes and dreams like everyone else, could lead

himself to murder an Israeli family in cold blood. The reason he did

this is not because of “occupation” or metal detectors at the Temple

Mount. The reason this attack occurred is because the Palestinian

leadership injects hatred into its citizens from the day they are

born. It is because the Palestinian leadership knows that such a

corrupt regime as itself can only survive by placing blame for their

problems on the Jews and perpetuating a cycle of violence. Palestinian

children learn in textbooks that they must grow up to be martyrs in

order to create a Palestinian state free of Jews. When they go home,

they watch shows like Pioneers of Tomorrow, where the hosts like

Nahoul the Bee and Assud the Rabbit die because of Israel. In Assud’s

debut show, his brother Nahoul died because he was sick and was unable

to get medical treatment. Assud and the child host pledge to “liberate

al-Aqsa from the filth of those Zionists,” while Assud tells a young

caller that he will eat Jews. In a later episode, Assud dies from an

Israeli airstrike, but not before being sentenced by viewers to have

his hand cut off for stealing.

The world must understand that Palestinian leaders have fostered a

culture of death. They have brainwashed their people to believe that

the source of their problems is the Jews, rather than their own failed

leadership. Instead of building a country, they have kept their people

living in a state of perpetual victimhood, encouraging their youth to

launch rockets and martyr themselves instead of building

infrastructure and creating jobs for their people.

The world must realize that they too are responsible for this. The

Arab countries have kept Palestinians in refugee camps and denied them

equal rights, while the United Nations has done nothing but perpetuate

this problem my making them the only group of refugees in the world

that passes down their refugee status to the next generation. This

helps them continue promoting the issue of a ‘Right of Return’ and

provides fuel to the anti-Israel cause. The Western World has largely

turned a blind eye to Palestinian extremism, instead preferring to

chastise Israel for building homes and demand Israel allow the

creation of a terror state within its borders.

The world must see this picture, the blood of a dead family covering

the floor of their kitchen, because it speaks volumes about the

current situation. It is time to stop pretending that Israel has a

partner for peace, because it does not. While this was done under the

guise of protesting metal detectors at the Temple Mount, it is much

more than that – it is the culmination of years of incitement by

Palestinian leaders and years of the world turning a blind eye.

The world must see this, because the world must see the truth.

(end of piece)

This was my reply:

On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Avner Efendowicz <avnerefe@yahoo.com> wrote:

Neve Tsuf is a settlement in the occupied territories. The Israeli occupation is the MOST violent action in the conflict. So it's not just an innocent "Shabbat Dinner" (still, the killing is horrible indeed).

What the world must see is the terrible conditions of the people living in Gaza and elsewhere under the Israeli oppression.

Cheers,
Avner E.

The state of Tel Aviv

To the President of the United States of America, Mr. Barack Obama

Mr. President, Sir,

Towards your visit to Israel next week, please allow me to convey to you some thoughts which your hosts will not tell you.

But first, a brief background: On November 4, 2008, the historic day that you were elected President, I lived in the US, although I did not have the right to vote. I remember that day clearly, as one of the most exciting days of my life. I saw beautiful people, Black and White and Asian and Hispanic, tears in their eyes, saying that in their wildest dreams they had never imagined that they would live to see an African-American person elected for the highest office. They said that they didn’t support you because of the color of your skin, but because your words have filled them with hope and inspiration, and that those words were mobilizing them for action, to do what is good and just in this world. Only then I fully realized, what it really meant for a great leader to motivate and encourage people.

Ever since then, you sir, have provided me with many reasons to be content from your election: you managed to pass the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, rightfully known as the Obamacare act; With great effort, you have amended some of the economic destruction which had been left over by your predecessors, the Bush family and their gang; you have consistently supported the expansion of Civil Rights, the rights of minorities, same-sex marriage, ceasing the hypocrisy of the illegal interrogation at Guantanamo; you have acted courageously to reach out to the Muslim world and Muslim cultures, and more.

However, in one issue, which is particularly close to me being an Israeli citizen, you gave me some disappointment. By this I mean, the Israeli issue and in particular, the Zionist-Palestinian Conflict (wrongly known as “The Israeli-Palestinian” or the “Israeli-Arab” Conflict.

Mr. President,

All Israeli governments have always walked on the boundary between arrogant, vain conceitedness, and childish whining; between manic euphoria of Messianic Days, and the depression of pessimism and despair. This is a country whose citizens are demanding from their government a feeling of security, at the expense of security itself; who will not be satisfied with less than absolute personal security for every (Jewish) citizen (as if such perfect security exists in any country) – at the cost of security for all, including securing the future, welfare, health and education. A country whose residents stick their heads in holes in the ground, ignoring what is taking place within walking distances from their homes, and hopping from festivity sprees, as if tomorrow’s reality only existed in fairy tales. The Israeli public is a rare collection of brilliant talents, with wide islands of excellence, but at the same time it is a collective of straying individuals asking for decent leadership, a request left empty handed. Every community, be it comprised of the most gifted and well educated (such as, for example, university professors), needs leadership and inspiration; who else knows this better than you, sir, who provided such inspiration to one of the biggest communities on this planet, at times of hardship.

The Jewish people have always been blessed with extraordinary skills and talents in all walks of life – save the realm of State leadership (Jews have excelled in positions of consulting and managing key functions such as finances and administration in great empires throughout history – but only as seconds to the country leaders). The political discourse in Israel involves an odd and impossible mixture of power-addiction and arrogance, with existential anxiety from every hiss of the wind. We keep telling you the Americans, over and over again: We do not need your help, as we are strong and self-sustained; but dare you not make the tiniest cut in your aide to us, or we will get back to you come election day, through the powerful Jewish network (which we shall call Anti-Semite to whoever even dare to suggest that it exists!) We do not need your favors, just leave us alone – but please don’t abandon us to the mercy of the Security Council.

I understand your concern, you being the U.S. government, from putting too much pressure on Israel. You "need the Jewish Vote", You are afraid that the Israeli public should unite against any kind of outside pressure, and you do not want to get in return the “Unintended consequence”. So I must tell you, the honored President of the United States: Have no fear! You no longer need the “Jewish Voice" (if such a thing really exists – than the anti-Semitists are correct!) in order to be re-elected; on the other hand, this vote shall be yours forever, anyway, should you reach out to the State of Israel, and help her escape this injurious situation and return to the original Jewish values. The vast majority of the Jewish public, both in your country and in ours, is far from extremism, it does not support the settlements project from ideological reasons, and a great majority of us have already come to realize that the Occupation is corrupting us. Many of us feel disdain for our petty, crooked and hedonistic politicians. The Israeli public, by enlarge, is in a state of stagnated despair of the situation, and I think I can prove this: the majority of the public supports the well-known compromise with the Palestinians, and yet – it also supports the bloc of parties which makes sure that this compromise shall never materialize! How is this possible? – In my view, this is a typical syndrome of despair and fear: we generally don’t support the Right wing ideology, but yet we unite behind it, due to the lack of any foreseen alternative. This is due to what the Right does best – the art of Fear, and the illusion of Power. The Israeli public feels the lack of leadership, and only because of this it prefers the known and the comfortable. Most Israelis today are motivated by a sense of survival, and by short-term calculations. If only there was a man or a woman who came even close to you sir, to give them a bit of inspiration, vision, some hope for the future – they would rise to the challenge, and follow that leader through shine or rain.

This nation has no problem dealing with the difficulties and suffering – if they come with the hope of a better future. Nietzsche said: “(S)he who has a Why to live for, can bear almost any How.”

If only the public knew, with its utilitarian senses, the price of refusal, deadlock, and stubborn stupidity (you know what I mean) – they would kick their outdated leaders out into history’s trash cans. Most of the Israeli public – including parts of the Right, even some ultra-Orthodox, and certainly the Arabs – have no interest whatsoever in the continuous suffering for the caprices and Messianic fanaticism of the current government.

There will always be extremists and fanatics, who in their arrogance believe that the voice of God speaks from their mouths; for whom, matters of national considerations are seen as nonsense. But they are a minority in my country, thank God. And the majority will be able to defeat them, even if it will take force, God forbid (but I believe it will be required, unfortunately). Even in your country, there has been a terrible civil war, which ended in a triumph of justice and equality. Well, not so much, but much better than before the war.

So I, as an Israeli who loves this Land (not so much the State), and who is worried about the future of this state; as a father of two young men serving in the Settlements Defense Forces (better known as the IDF), and as a former American who felt the spirit of history on the day you, sir, were elected President – I ask you: Please, next time that a proposed resolution to condemn the State of Israel is brought to the UN Security Council – please DO NOT VETO IT! Please vote for the condemnation, for sanity, for the historical reconciliation and against this selfish, sectorial and criminal government. Next time that the American public demands from you to cut the foreign aid budget, because they are fed up with funding lunatic regimes, while the US has a 16 trillion dollars debt – thou shalt not be afraid! Please cut the aid to Israel, an aid which allows its government to continue to fund the evil settlements project, which is unjust and illegal (even in the view of the Israeli law!), an aid which funds a minority in my country, living at the expense of the Israeli public and US tax payers, does not produce anything valuable, working in administrative work, and with its Chutzpah argues that it is the “real essence of Israel.” Such acts on your side will surely be answered by hysteric criticism from loud minorities, but also by the vast support of the sane majority, in Israel as well as in the American Jewry. Easy it shall not be, but I am confident that you, as a true leader, who sees the well-being of his country as his primary goal, rather than his own survival in power, shall work this through. Go in this way and be blessed! God that you and I believe shall be on your side, Amen.

God bless you, God bless America, and those who are in favor of the Audacity of Hope.

מי כאן הבריון

בעקבות ההשתלטות של לוחמי השייטת על משט הסיוע לעזה, שוב נשטפת הארץ בגלים עכורים של פטריוטיות זולה. סיסמאות בנוסח "כולנו שייטת 13" ניבטות אלינו מפינות שונות בארץ. חשוב להבהיר, שעל האופניים שלי אין סטיקר כזה
ראשית, מפני שלא שירתתי בשייטת
שנית, מפני שבעיני, הפורעים והאלימים בסיפור הזה הם חיילי השייטת, ולא פעילי השלום שבאו לפרוץ את המצור הבלתי צודק על עזה

מאבקם לעצמאות של הפלסטינים, ושל תומכיהם ההולכים ומתרבים בעולם, הוא מאבק צודק על פי כל קנה מידה הגון ומוסרי, גם על פי המוסר היהודי. זאת, גם בהסתייגות המתבקשת, שהאמצעים שנוקטים חלק מהפלסטינים, הם נפשעים ובלתי מוצדקים. הטרור שמפעילות קבוצות שונות, שהפכו לאחרונה לקבוצות שוליים, איננו משנה את הצדק הבסיסי בדרישה של הפלסטינים להיות עם חופשי בארצם
מכאן נובע, שכל פעולה המגבילה את חירותם ושוללת את זכויותיהם של תושבי רצועת עזה, וזה כולל מצור ימי – איננה צודקת ואיננה מוסרית. לנוכח מצור כזה, מוצדק להתנגד, גם באלימות – למעט אלימות נגד אזרחים שאינם נושאים נשק. חיילי השייטת הם לוחמים מאומנים, וגם אם מישהו החליט בשבילם, משיקולים של תדמית בלבד, שלא להעלות נשק חם אל סיפון האוניה – הרי הם חיילים חמושים לכל דבר, שביכולתם להפעיל אלימות ואף להרוג, כפי שאכן עשו לצערנו הרב
לנוכח השתלטות בכוח על אוניה שמטרתה לפרוץ מצור בלתי צודק, יש לנוסעי האוניה כל זכות שבעולם להתנגד להשתלטות, גם בכוח. התקשורת בישראל, שהיא חופשית בימים רגילים אבל מתגייסת ל"שירות האומה" במצבי "חירום", התייצבה כאיש אחד, בניצוחו של דובר צה"ל, כדי ליצור מצג שווא. מי שצרך בימים אלה רק חדשות בעברית, קיבל את הרושם שנוסעי ספינות הסיוע ההומניטרי היו חמושים בנשק חם, ושכוונתם העיקרית הייתה להשתמש בו על מנת להרוג. בדרנים ודברנים המתחזים לעיתונאים, כמו הכתב הצבאי של הערוץ הראשון, רוני דניאל, תיארו את האירוע במילים "נשמעו יריות לעבר חיילי צה"ל, מה שמוכיח שעל הספינה היה נשק חם". מה שה"כתב" הזה שכח להזכיר הוא, שהנשק הזה נחטף מידי חיילי השייטת.
האמת היתה שונה בתכלית. האוניות היו עמוסות במצרכים חיוניים שנועדו לתושבי עזה, ולא היה על הספינה נשק חם. מקצת מנוסעי הספינה "מרמרה" אלה שהיו אמיצים ומיומנים דיים להתנגד להשתלטות הקטלנית של חיילי צה"ל, הצטיידו בכלי נשק פרימיטיביים, כמו אלות ומעט סכינים. איש לא ירה על חיילי צה"ל מנשק שהגיע בספינה. אכן, בעקבות תושייתם של קצתם של נוסעי הספינה, ובאומץ מדהים שכמעט שום אדם שאני מכיר לא היה מצליח לגייס – וזה כולל כמובן אותי – הם הצליחו לחטוף מספר כלי נשק מחיילי הקומנדו הקשוחים והמאומנים ביותר בעולם, ולהתנגד במשך זמן מה, תוך סיכון חיים וודאי.
באחד מאמצעי התקשורת שבחר לשמור על מידה של עצמאות, התפרסם ראיון עם אחד הפעילים, לוחם המארינס לשעבר
Kenneth O'Keefe
http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3901776,00.html
אוקיף סיפר ששלושה חיילים נשבו על ידי הנוסעים למשך כחצי שעה, דבר שהיה יכול להתפתח לפיגוע מיקוח מביך עד אימה מבחינתה של ממשלת ישראל – אלמלא שוחררו השלושה, ביוזמת נוסעי הספינה, ללא פגע. לנוכח הנכונות של המפגינים לסכן את חייהם, בלחימה הרואית נגד לוחמי קומנדו ימי - די ברור ששום דבר לא מנע מהם לפגוע בחיילי השייטת השבויים, ששכבו בבטן האוניה כפותים ורועדים מפחד. העובדה שהמפגינים לא נרתעו מעימות אלים נגד חיילי קומנדו מאומנים, מוכיחה שלא החשש מפני הסתבכות עם השלטונות הישראליים מנע מהם לפגוע בשבויים. אני השתכנעתי מכנות דבריו של אוקיף, שטען בראיון שהם שחררו את השבויים מפני שלא באו כדי להרוג או לפגוע, אלא באמת כדי להעביר סיוע הומניטרי לפלסטינים. טענתה של ישראל, שניתן היה להעביר את הסיוע דרך שלטונות ישראל – מאבדת את אמינותה לנוכח ההתנהגות שאינה מעוררת אמון של ישראל במהלך הסכסוך, כמו הקפאת כספי המיסים הפלסטיניים, ההפרות המתמשכות של הסכמים, ועוד.
בעיני, מדהים ההבדל בין מידת הכנות והאותנטיות הנושבת מדבריו של אוקיף בראיון, לבין השקרים וחצאי האמיתות שפירסם דובר צה"ל. לאוקיף, שחטף מכות על הספינה, ולטענתו גם בעת שהיה במעצר, יש כל הסיבות להיות כועס וממורמר. אבל בראיון הוא נשמע רגוע וכמעט מפויס, ונימת דבריו עניינית ונטולת רוע. דובר צה"ל, לעומתו, תיאר אותו כ"שונא ישראל" שבא כדי לאמן לוחמים פלסטיניים. ממש, החמאס זקוק לקשישים ששרתו במארינס לפני 18 שנה כדי שיאמנו אותם. כמו כן כינה דובר צה"ל את המפגינים "שכירי חרב". איך אפשר לחשוב על מפגינים אלה כעל אנשי לגיון הזרים, שבאו לסכן את חייהם תמורת כסף? אין גבול לאבסורד

על כן, כל הדיבורים על מפגינים אלימים וחמושים, שבאו להילחם, ורק גבורתם של לוחמי השייטת מנעה זאת מהם, וגם הצילה את ישראל משבירת המצור על עזה – אין להם על מה לסמוך. להיפך, ההכנה הלקויה של המבצע, אפילו מבחינת המטרות שניסתה ישראל להשיג, וההרג שביצעו הלוחמים, רק גרמו לישראל מבוכה עולמית, בזיון ברמה הטקטית, ופגיעה חמורה במעמדה הבינלאומי, המעורער ממילא

ההנהגה הישראלית הכושלת שוב הוכיחה קוצר ראיה, חוסר תכנון, העדפה של הגישה הכוחנית על פני כל חלופה, לשון אחר – ההתנהגות הבריונית הרגילה של ארגון המסובך עד מעל לראשו בפרויקט של כיבוש, דיכוי, שלילת זכויות, וניסיון חסר תוחלת להחזיק במקל בשני קצותיו ביד אחת: גם לא להרפות מהכיבוש, וגם להצטייר, בעיני עצמו ובעיני זולתו, כגוף מוסרי, דמוקרטי ונאור. זה לא עבד מעולם, בשום מקום, לאורך זמן ארוך. ולכן סופו של הנסיון הנואל להיכשל גם במקרה הזה

Ping-Pong of Ideas, vol. 7

Israel must not create a precedent of surrendering Jewish land to the enemies. At the same time, Villagers, fearing a humanitarian and security disaster if the pullout takes place, have said they want to remain residents of Israel and recently held marathon meetings with the President, Prime Minister, Defense Minister, and various ministers and Knesset members in an effort to garner support and prevent the
withdrawal.
Oh, so Ghajar is a Jewish territory too?!... people debate whether it's on Lebanese or Syrian land, but nobody claims that it has ever been Jewish. This is another sign of your ignorance or demagogy.


Hypocrisy of the Headlines.

(Thank G-d that the PA is not willing to accept peace with Israel in
any way, otherwise the self-hating traitors would give up all Jewish
land for the illusion of peace!)
Thank you, for providing the ultimate proof for the longtime claim by the Liberal camp, that you guys pray that there will be "no partner" on the Arab side.

When Archaeology becomes Threat to Fake Policy. The United
States-based Time Magazine complained last week that the
archaeological activities of the "City of David Foundation" are
hijacking Israel 's political agenda, implying the organization is
forcing Muslims to accept the Jewish truth of Biblical historical
statements through archaeological discoveries in the Ir David
neighbourhood, south of Jerusalem's Old City. (One can't change
archaeological artefacts for political reasons but can hide them or
forbid even talk about them. Saudi Arabia and Jordan, to prevent
Jewish discoveries, are very restrictive of any archaeological
diggings. Egypt disallows scientific debate on the origin of the
Pyramids and the Sphinx.)
And, Israel is doing the same by hiding evidence for any type of control on this land by anybody who was not Jewish. You did not refute that, but as you are used to, preferred to answer with true, but irrelevant, claims regarding the other side.


*Food for Thought. **by Steven Shamrak*

J Street, a liberal, anti-Zionist This is a lie. Jewish lobbying group

*UNRWA Promoting Terrorism. *An UNRWA (the United Nations Relief and
Works Agency for Palestinian Refugees) educational program has honored
the terrorist Abu Jihad with a football tournament in his name. The
tournament was organized by the Fatah Students' Youth Movement at
UNRWA's Women's Training Center in Ramallah. (This is not the first
time UNRWA has helped the PA to promote terrorism among so-called
Palestinians.)
And the Israeli Parliament last week honored a group of Jewish Terrorists, known as "those Hanged in the Gallows" (Olei Hagardom), as national heroes.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1155185.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olei_Hagardom

Ping-Pong of Ideas, vol. 6

Syria and Hizballah are acting out the secret military cooperation pacts, which were negotiated and signed during visits to Damascus by Iran's National Security Adviser Saeed Jalili on Nov. 3 and its defence minister Ahmed Vahidi on Dec. 17. These treaties commit Syria to come to Hizballah's aid if it comes under Israeli attack, and all three signatories to respond to any Israeli military movement.
So, you admit that Israel could actually be the aggressor in this conflict?

*'Land for Peace' is Dead.** * Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman, head of the Israel Our Home party, says, "It's time to forget our obsession of "territory in exchange for peace; all future agreements must be based on 'peace in exchange for peace.'"
"Good luck" with this plan. Lieberman is considered a lunatic even by most of the Israelis themselves, you hear it everywhere.
Even his voters are recognizing this, and his party will be gone in the next elections.

*Iranian Nuclear Hypocrisy Exposed.* Glyn Davis, a senior U.S. envoy to the IAEA, accused Iranian leaders of hypocrisy for opting to pursue "ever more dangerous nuclear technology"
What about the American and Israeli nuclear hypocrisy?
What gives them the right to posses the Bomb, and deny it from other countries?
The only country to use the bomb so far was "the greatest democracy".
Israel is being hypocritical 4 times:
It possess the Bomb while acting to prevent it from others;
It wont admit it, thus pretending to be a "peaceful" country;
It wont admit of lying about it, using the "opacity" policy;
Israel always said that "it wont be the 1st country in the region to introduce the Bomb", which is another lie.

*Quote of the Week: * "I remember the Muhammad al-Durra hoax that was staged in cahoots between Palestinian and French journalists. This blood libel provoked a killing spree against Israelis even after the facts came out to reveal that:
1) The boy was killed by Arab gunfire, not Israeli;
and 2) The boy wasnt killed at all.
Don't you see the contradiction here, you idiot?!

Israel must review, introduce and enforce strong ethics in media reporting:
Israeli and foreign journalists and networks who report fake news,
solicit newsworthy violence, deliberately compose anti-Israel biased
reports or are too lazy to check the facts should lose their media
licence in Israel!
If you want to live in a Tyranny, that's your choice. Leave us alone to live our life in freedom.

The enemies of Israel have offered only rocket fire and random terror attacks as
concessions.)
That's not true. Read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Peace_Initiative

US is Subsidising Terror. The United States announced on Thursday that
it will donate $40 million to the United Nations Relief and Works
Agency, *UNRWA**,* for Arabs in the Palestinian Authority-assigned
areas, Jordan, Lebanon and Syria . (The American funding comes despite
a report that Hamas terrorists are employed by the agency. That is why
Canada decided last month to stop its UNRWA funding. The US' s huge
international debt has also not stopped this stupidity!)
UNRWA is the only reason that people in Gaza are still alive, saving Israel the need to feed them.
if people started to starve in Gaza, that's going to be the end of the Israeli occupation.


REMEMBER Muslims killed 3,308 in America in 65 terror attacks

REMEMBER that the Israeli military has killed AT LEAST 2,038 innocent people during 2000 - 2006 only.
that makes the Israeli military a worse terrorist organization than all Palestinian movements, combined.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_civilian_casualties_in_the_Second_Intifada

Ping-Pong of Ideas, vol. 5

*Food for Thought. **by Steven Shamrak*

*Another Idiot has Opened his Mouth.** * In order to promote his party (Labor) position and undermined the view of his Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, Defence Minister Ehud Barak says the conflict with Palestinians poses a greater threat to Israel than Iran's nuclear program.
I can't believe that I'm defending this villain, Gen. (ret.) Barak; but this "idiot" is a Stanford graduate. Judging by your writing, it doesn't look like you have ever graduated from elementary school.

Stupidity of Feeding Enemies. As a goodwill gesture (how many of them must Israel make to realize that they do not work?) , Defense Minister Ehud Barak has authorized the annual transfer of NIS 25 million, about $6 million, to Gaza Strip residents entitled to social security and pension payments from Israel. (The money could be better used for supporting Israeli victims of Hamas and fighting terror!)
This is actually tax money that belongs to the Palestinians, and the Israeli government illegally confiscates.
According to the agreements, Israel is supposed to collect the tax money in the checkpoints, and transfer it to the PA.


Time for Rebirth of True Zionism.

by Lori Lowenthal Marcus

And as the world grows increasingly hostile to Israel, the Jews hostile to Israel play an increasingly larger role in the public debate. Who are those Jews? You know: the self-important intellectuals and the well-moneyed, honey-tongued groupies currently whispering into the eager ears of the White House (seeking the praise of the masters). They label themselves "pro-peace and pro-Israel." But they don't really care about protecting Israel from the threats of terrorism and extinction.
I didn't know that we were so strong and influential; thanks for the encouragement!

Ping-Pong of Ideas, vol. 4

You May not be pro-Israel IF...

*by Moshe Phillips*

You may not be "Pro-Israel" if you question the "pro-Israel-ness" of people who don't agree with your opinions; if you think that being patriotic only means agreeing to the views of your government - that's actually a sign of Tyranny.

*Action Alert:** ** Support Passage of the Armenian Genocide
Resolution by US House of Representatives
*- The world kept silent during and after the genocide of almost 1.5
million Armenians by Turks, who are still denying it, during 1915-1917. This atrocity
was facilitated by international indifference and silence and paved
the way for the Holocaust!
And the state of Israel, "the only democracy in the middle east," every year, to these days, bans peaceful vigils in front of the Turkish embassy by Armenian Israeli citizens, because good relationships with Turkey is more important to the Israeli government than free speech.

*Food for Thought. **by Steven Shamrak*
The major sponsor of international Islamic terrorism, **Saudi
Arabia**, is an official 'best friend' of the * *United States**!
And why not, the US has carried out more terrorist attacks than any other country in history.
Similar statements can be made about *Israel* and its 60 years of so-called independence. It is time to regain our self-respect*!
...Which is another terrorist country.

(What have the oil rich Arab countries done to help Haiti and during other international disasters? Sponsoring international terrorism is the only thing they are good at!)
That's actually true.

Who is Real Self-hating Extremist? The State Attorney's Office has
instructed police to launch an investigation against journalist Natan
Zahavi after he had announced a cash prize to anyone who would smash
the face of settler or Haredi person who he said calls soldiers
"Nazis" during his radio program. (The desire of the Jewish left to
destroy their and Israel's Jewishness is treason of the highest degree
- Self-Hate must end!)
So you think that call soldiers "Nazis" is a sign of Jewishness, that must be protected?


No Apologies Expected. The Kuwaiti foreign minister Mohammad El Sabah
has been quoted as saying, ''the government of Israel is not normal,
and the person at its head is an imbecile and a nut case.''
This is something that more than 70% of the Israelis can agree on.

What is Vatican Hiding?
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/pius.html

Following Pope Benedict the 16th visit to the Great Synagogue in
Rome, Deputy Prime Minister Silvan Shalom called on the Vatican to
open its archives from the Holocaust era in order to reduce the
tension between Judaism and Christianity. (If the Vatican is so proud
of the actions of Pope Pius XII during Holocaust, why 60 years later
are the archives still closed and so the world is unable to
'appreciate' his 'saintly deeds'?)
AGREED

!אוי ויי - נכדו של בגין לא ציוני

או:

שיחה על סף הזעזוע שלנו

אבינדב בגין, בנו של השר בני בגין (חבר הקבינט!), התראיין למוסף סוף השבוע של ידיעות אחרונות והכריז בו "אני לא יהודי... אני לא מקיים שום מצוות שקשורות ליהדות... אני לא עומד דום בעת שירת "התקוה"... באופן מהותי מנחם בגין (סבו של הדובר!) לא שינה כלום ביחסים בין ישראל למצרים... אין שלום בין ישראל למצרים, זו אשליה..."

למרות שהוצאתי את דבריו של אבינדב מהקשרם, באשר הוא אומר דברים דומים על כל הדתות והאידיאולוגיות, ולא רק על היהדות, הרי שהשתדלתי לעשות זאת באופן הוגן. וזה כולל את ההסבר הזה. וזאת על רקע החלטתו של עורך הצהובון המתקרא "ידיעות אחרונות" לתת את הכותרת הבאה לראיון: "בעורקי כולנו זורם דם של רוצחים." חזק, אה? כותרת אדומה, דם, רוצחים. טיזר ראוי לכתבת השער. צריך הרי למכור את העיתון, בעיקר בעיצומה של מלחמת העולם נגד "ישראל היום". מי יודע אם עמישראל הטמבל יקרא את המוסף, אפילו עכשיו שהוא מחולק חינם במרכזי קניות.

הלא הקורא הממוצע, שהוא טמבל כמו מסעודה משדרות לפי דעתו של עורך המוסף, יניח מיד שאבינדב בגין מתכוון לנו, לישראלים, ליהודים, באומרו "בעורקינו זורם דם של רוצחים". ואם כך, הוא שמאלני, אנטישמי, עוכר ישראל. לא מישהו ששווה את חלוקת הקשב העלובה שלנו. לא חשוב שהוא לא התכוון לישראלים, אלא לכל בני האדם. למי יש ראש לדקויות.

אבל הפוסט הזה הוא לא על בגין הנכד. כבודו במקומו, אני מסכים עם רבים מדבריו, אבל לא זה העניין כאן.

העניין התעורר אצלי למקרא ה"בוקסה" שמכילה ראיון-זוטא עם פרופ' דוד אוחנה. המרצה להיסטוריה מאוניברסיטת בן-גוריון בנגב משבח את בגין הצעיר על חוצפתו והעזתו, ומוסיף: "הוא לא קיצוני, אלא רדיקלי, כלומר, הוא נוגע בשורשי הדברים, מעז לשאול שאלות ולהטיל ספק בערכים הכי מקודשים שלנו. ניסוחיו החריפים והבוטים מעניקים מבט מרענן על מוסכמות חבוטות. מדי פעם אנו זקוקים לבחור כזה שיגיח מאי שם, ויטלטל אותנו וירענן את השאלות שאנחנו חייבים לשאול..." אן ספק שבביטוי "ניסוחיו החריפים והבוטים" מהדהד קולו של אינטלקטואל אחר, הפרופ' ישעיהו ליבוביץ' המנוח. לייבוביץ, בנוסף להיותו אינטלקטואל אדיר, אכן טילטל וזיעזע, והפרובוקציות שעשה השיגו בדיוק את מטרתן – לא פרסום וכבוד (כולם יסכימו שלא את אלה ביקש), אלא – דיון, ויכוח בין צדדים יריבים, ליבון והבהרה של עמדות.

את מי, אם כן, מטלטל בגין הצעיר?

אף לא אחד.

אנחנו חיים בדור, ששום דבר כבר לא מטלטל אותנו. "הנכד של בגין לא ציוני, לא יהודי, שמאלני, מפגין בבילעין נגד הגדר" – נו טוף, מה יש בערוץ 10?

הסביבה התרבותית שלנו היא אוסף כל כך פרוע של טלטלות, גירויים, פרסומות, טיזרים, פרומואים, דאחקות של גן ילדים – שסף הגירוי שלנו כבר הגיע לרמה של עכברי מעבדה שיכורי אנדורפינים. אין כבר לאן להעלות את הגירוי. ציטוט מתוך ביקורת על אחת מתכניות הריאליטי (לטעמי, אפילו אחת הטובות שבהן), שנכתבה ע"י מבקר הטלוויזיה של לא אחר מאשר העיתון לאנשים חושבים (והוא באמת, היחיד בשפה העברית שראוי לתואר "עיתון"): "ריקודים מרגשים, דרמה, דמעות, - ראינו כבר את כל אלה. הבו לנו כבר משהו חדש" (או משהו בדומה לזה).

אתם מבינים מה קורה פה? הכל הפך להיות כל כך מוחצן, צעקן, מוגזם – שאי אשפר להתייחס כבר לשום דבר. פעם לא היה יותר טוב. אבל פעם שחיתות של פוליטיקאים, טרור בחסות צה"ל, מעשים שלא ייעשו – היו מוציאים אלפי אנשים לרחובות. בעד, נגד, לא ממש משנה – אנשים כאבו, הזדעזעו, הגיבו. היום, בעידן הרייטינג והטוקבק, אנחנו עסוקים בעיקר בטירוף של הקשות מקלדת, הקלקות עכבר וסקרולינג של הגלגלת, אל האייטם המרגש הבא. הכל כל כך קינקי, סליזי וביזארי, ששום דבר כבר לא מרגש. תודות לסטנדרטים שנקבעו ע"י ערוץ 2 וחקייניו, החדשות הפכו למצרך בידורי (האמריקאים כדרכם כבר הגדירו וקיטלגו את זה בשם – "אינפוטיינמנט"), ואנחנו במרדף אינסופי וחסר תוחלת אחרי העונג הבא. הביטוי המובהק לכך הוא הפרומואים האמורים לגרות אותנו לצפות בתכניות שתשודרנה בקרוב: הווליום חזק יותר ויותר; לקריין קול חודר דרמטי המכריז: “מחר! משהו שעוד לא ראיתם! אם לשבעה שבישלה את בתה הקטנה – והתקשרה למשטרה כדי לבקש מלח. היא תהיה באולפן עם אילנה דיין – אסור להחמיץ!" וכדי שלא נחמיץ – נאמר לנו מתי תשודר התכנית. לא, לא מדובר בשעה, אל תתאמצו להציץ בשעון או לעשות חישוב כלשהו. "אחרי דודו טופז." עכשיו אתם מאופסים.

אז באמת, פרופסור אוחנה: "יטלטל אותנו"? "ירענן את השאלות שאנחנו חייבים לשאול"? התגובות בשולחן השבת למקרא דברי בגין הצעיר היו צפויות עד זרא: "זה די מעניין, אבל למה להיות קיצוני? הוא לא יהודי, לא ציוני – אז מה הוא? נראה לי שמשהו פשוט דפוק בו. שקט, מתחיל "ארץ נהדרת". אח, איך הם עושים את ליברמן הבריון הזה, איזה צחוקים."

Ping-Pong of Ideas, vol. 3 (this time with Mr. Shamrak)

* The Department of Homeland Security, created to defend the nation
after the Sept. 11 Islamic terror attacks, has dramatically shifted
its focus, earlier this year advising police nationwide to watch out
for "right-wing extremists"...
When your government carries out anti-democratic measures against some people, It really sucks when the same measures are turned back to you, doesn't it?... (I'm against political persecution on all sides).

* Five Gitmo terrorists - the worst of the worst, including confessed
9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed will be tried in civilian court
in New York City, offering these mega-terrorists the worldwide stage
they crave from which to spread their ideology...
Justice for all - that sucks too, eh? I guess you prefer "Justice for all Christians and Jews".

* Why does Department of Homeland Security chief Janet Napolitano
oppose referring to Hamas as a terrorist organization?
Because that would require referring to the Israeli military by the same terminology.

Jews are still Used as Deflectors of Public Opinion. The United
States pledged to be ''even more committed this year'' to resolving
the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, warning that any further delay would
only hurt the interests of all parties involved. ''We know that the
Palestinians deserve a state to fulfil their aspirations... So we're
going to be even more committed this year'' Secretary of State Hillary
Clinton said.
Don't worry, those are empty words. The Obama administration will continue a long time tradition of being cheated by the Israeli government on "freeze of building in settlements" and alike.

*Quote of the Week: * "The PLO did not represent a state and was no
political authority. Most leaders of the PLO were from the elsewhere
in the region, Arafat for example was an Egyptian, Faizal Husseini
(Arafat's chief assistant) was from Iraq.
David Ben Gurion was from Plonsk, Russia (now Poland); Golda Meir was from Milwaukee, US (born in Kiev, Ukraine); Menachem Begin was from Brisk, Russia (now Belarus). Actually, none of the Jewish political leaders before Rabin was born in Israel.

Political Stupidity in IDF Must End. Leftist activist Edna Canetti
has used her presence on Channel 2's Big Brother program to make
political comments and attack the IDF's policy in Judea and Samaria.
Now it turns out that the Defense Ministry has invited her to speak to
disabled IDF veterans and share her views with them. (The IDF have
been systematically hindering propagation of Zionist ideals in the
army. Soldiers must know what they fight for!)
This is bullshit, and it proves that you have never been even one day close to any IDF base (and I am suspecting that neither to any military base, for that matter).
Mrs. Canetti made a comparison between the genocide in Jericho in 13th century B.C by the Jews, and the Holocaust She later on took it back and apologized. I actually don't know what she had to apologize for - according to the Bible, the Jews did kill all the people of Jericho, men women and children, just like the Nazis did.

Today, only around 45,000 Palestinians have work permits (they must say a big "thank you" for that) .
So you think that one has to say "thank you" for getting the very basic human rights. That's pure racism.

*Look Who is Complaining.
*Israel publicly snubbed Turkey's ambassador over his country's persistent criticism of the Jewish state and the screening of a Turkish television drama depicting Israeli security forces as kidnapping children and shooting old men. The Turkish government protested about the treatment of Turkish ambassador to Israel, Ahmet Oguz Celikkol, by Deputy Foreign embassador Danny Ayalon. "Israel must obey the standards of international diplomatic manners". (Since the election of Turkish Prime Minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Turkey has
repeatedly criticized and snubbed Israel . An occasional snub from Israel is a healthy treatment for enemies of the Jews.)
Even in Israel, there is a general consensus (majority of opinion), that this incident caused a HUGE damage to Israel's foreign affairs.

An answer to Steven Shamrak, vol. 5

*Obama Appointed Self-Hating Anti-Semitism Czar.

*by Aaron Klein***

In her first major interview since becoming President Obama's newly
appointed anti-Semitism czar (it took Obama a while to find an
ideologically compatible self-hating Jew to fill the position), Hannah
Rosenthal blasted the Israeli government. She characterized as "most
unfortunate" a decision by Michael Oren, Israel's ambassador to the
United States, to not attend the annual dinner in September of J
Street, a (self-appointed) lobby group that is mostly led by
left-leaning (anti-Israel and anti-Jewish)
here's another thinking-challenged demagogue, who can't comprehend the basic fact of life, that there could be smart people who think different than him.

Israelis and receives funds
from Arab and Muslim Americans... J Street supports talks with Hamas,
a terrorist group
Not more terrorist than the IDF
whose charter seeks the destruction of Israel. The
group opposes sanctions against Iran and is harshly critical of
Israeli offensive anti-terror military actions.
That’s because the "military actions" are even worse terrorist actions than those of the Hamas.

Regarding a recent UN report, accusing Israel of war crimes during
the Jewish state's defensive war in Gaza last year, Rosenthal told
Haaretz, "it is not anti-Semitic to look at a certain policy of Israel
and say - I disagree with it. Half of the population in Israel isn't
anti-Semitic by not agreeing with policies." (If this is so, will she
call for the investigation of war crimes allegedly committed by the US
army in Afghanistan and Iraq?)
Of course!


*When civilians actively have been supporting Islamic terrorism
against the state of Israel and actively participated in or covered
the hostile actions of enemies during the war, as they have been doing
in Afghanistan and Iraq. Therefore they became * enemy combatants
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enemy_combatant>
. Killing them is not a war crime! The UN's high-priced international
lawyers know this, but anti-Semitic international politicians are
still waging an anti-Israel smear campaign!
By this definition (to which I don't agree), most of the Jewish residents of Israel are "enemy combatants" and are entitled to be killed.


Arabs and Druze are Most Murderous Israelis. While Arab and Druze
Israelis constitute 20% of the country's population, they accounted
for 59% of the country's murders. Out of 121 murders in Israel in
2009, 71 were committed by or among Arabs and Druze. The vast majority
of criminal bombings occurred in the minority sector, particularly the
Arab sector, where 85 events of planting bombs and 65 of throwing
grenades at targets were recorded
By whom? Those are sheer lies.



In Spite of Having Oil. A report published by the United Nations
Development Program and the Arab League shows that 40% of people in
Arab countries live under the poverty line, a figure that has not
changed over the past 20 years. In addition, unemployment among young
people in the Arab world ranks among the highest in the world.
This is actually true.

Message to anti-Israel Objectors.

by Steven Shamrak

You would like to call and see yourself as genuine and objective
supporters of a just cause but you never worry about the factual
correctness of the anti-Israel information you are using. Quite often
you knowingly using forged information and even deliberately make fake
accusations or twist the facts in order to make an anti-Israel smear.
When we show you factual proof that so-called Palestinians are a fake
nation and are actually the occupiers of Jews' land, you dismiss it as
Zionist propaganda.
No, we dismiss it based on real facts, not wishful thinking. The Palestinians are here and nobody can tell any group of people that they are not a nation, if they feel that they are.
Years of suicide bombings and rocket attacks
against Jews in Israel are unable to shake off your support for
terrorists
that's because of years of massive killings of innocent Palestinians by the Israeli "defense" forces.

If you are not anti-Semites, why don't you care so much about the
occupation of: Tibet by China; Basque region by Spain and France;
Northern Ireland by the United Kingdom; Kurdistan by five countries;
Kashmir by India and Pakistan; Western Sahara by Morocco? Where is
your concern about the fate of refugees created by the war in Congo,
the genocidal policy of the Sudanese government and so on?
Yes we do, there is no contradiction.

Avner Efendowicz

An answer to Steven Shamrak, vol. 4

Dear readers,

I guess you know the routine already… here goes:

IDF Can when Politicians Want. Security Services in partnership with

soldiers of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) killed the murderers of
Rabbi Meir Avshalom Chai. All three were convicted terrorists who had
been committed to and later released from Israeli prisons.
This is actually killing without trial, which is considered a severe crime in any civilized country, except, of course, Israel.

*Goldstone Report Works Both Ways.* Fifteen Israelis who were injured
by Kassam rockets from Gaza Arab terrorists during Operation Cast Lead
have filed a lawsuit against Hamas in a Belgian court. The Israelis
are demanding that Belgian authorities issue international arrest
warrants for senior Hamas terrorists, including Khaled Mashaal, Ismail
Haniyeh, Mahmoud a-Zahar, Ahmad Jabbari, and Muhammad Deff. Part of
the case rests upon the Goldstone report, which ruled that Kassam
rocket fire by Hamas was a violation of international law, and that
the court could not ignore the case.
Good luck!

*Swastikas on Walls of Ancient Synagogue near Hevron.** * A group of
Jews, in a rare visit to the ruins of an ancient synagogue in a PA
controlled village southwest of Hevron, was shocked to discover that
swastikas had been scrawled on the walls. (No international outrage.
It was not even covered by the mainstream news! Why is Arab/Muslim
thuggery not news worthy?)
Interestingly, no word from you about anti-Arab and anti-Islamic graffiti, which is left intact for years on the walls of Arab neighborhoods, whose legal residents were forced out by the apartheid Israeli regime.


The Result of Non-Jewish Migration and Political Apathy. 1. The
government discussed imposing limitations on the sale of alcoholic
beverages. Under the proposed rules, individuals under 21 will not be
able to purchase alcoholic beverages, and no sales will be permitted
after 11 PM. In addition, drinking in public places would be
prohibited, and alcohol will be sold only in specially licensed
stores. 2. Five men were stabbed in a mass brawl that broke out in
Kiryat Gat early on Saturday a week ago over music blasting from a
car. ''The husband (of kiosk owner) was stabbed and seriously wounded.
A number of passersby came to his aid, and four more people were
stabbed,'' said a police spokeswoman.
So you are suggesting that only non-Jews drink and commit crimes? How low can you go, you racist low-life?

Hypocrisy of the Headlines.* *

*Israel feels tarnished as critics apply apartheid tag...

* - Why don't Arabs feel 'tarnished' wearing the well deserved tag of
blood-thirsty terrorists, anti-crusaders bigots and heroin pushers?
Where are the headlines about it?
Because there are equally blood-thirsty terrorists among the Jews in this land.

*Opposition to Rabin Bank Note.** *Bank of Israel was asked by Land
of Israel activists to reconsider its decision to put the portrait of
former Prime Minister Yitzchak Rabin on bank notes: "Let it be clearly
understood that Rabin's image was controversial... Rabin caused
inestimable and indescribable damage to the state of Israel." (And it
is conveniently forgotten that Yitzhak Rabin was a Haganah commander
who carried out the attack on the Irgun weapon supply boat, the
Altalena, killing and wounding Jews and sinking the boat, at the time
when Jews needed weapons most!)
This is exactly why the late Rabin deserves a note. He fought against Jewish terrorists who were responsible for the killings of hundreds of innocent Arabs during the period 1931 - 1938. All documented by the Jewish underground Etze"l itself, in the book "Chronicles of the War for Independence," by Yaakov Amrami and Arieh Melitz, 1951.

Avner Efendowicz

An answer to Steven Shamrak, vol. 3

Dear readers,

Below is another response to yet another article I received by email, from Mr. Steven Shamrak.

Mr. Shamrak is a very knowledgeable individual, who runs a very patriotic "pro-Israeli" web site (from Australia), called "Shamrak's report" (www.shamrak.com) .

I embedded my humble response to his claims, marked with yellow highlighting. I hope that you find this interesting, maybe even entertaining.

Arab-Israel Conflict – Forgotten Facts! – Intro1

The term "Palestinian" is itself a masterful twisting of history. To portray themselves as indigenous, Arab settlers adopted the name of an ancient Mediterranean tribe, the Philistines (“Invaders” in Hebrew),

This is BS. There is no connection between "Plishtim" and "Polshim".

1. Nationhood and Jerusalem - Israel became a nation in the 14th century B.C.E. Two thousand years before the rise of Islam.

So?!

2. Since 1272 B.C.E. the Jews have had dominion over the land for up to 1,000 years with a continuous Jewish presence in the land for the past 3,300 years.

So?!

3. The only Arab dominion since the Arab invasion and conquest in 635 C.E. lasted no more than 22 years.

So?!

4. King David founded the city of Jerusalem. Mohammed never came to Jerusalem.

So?!

6. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in Tanach, the Jewish Holy Scriptures. Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran.

Irrelevant.

7. Jews pray facing Jerusalem. Muslims pray facing Mecca (often with their backs toward Jerusalem).

Don’t confuse Muslims with Palestinians. Many Palestinians are Christians. How is this relevant?

15. Did you know that Saudi Arabia was not created until 1913, Lebanon until 1920? Iraq did not exist as a nation until 1932, Syria until 1941; the borders of Jordan were established in 1946 and Kuwait in 1961. Any of these nations that would say Israel is only a recent arrival would have to deny their own rights as recent arrivals as well. They did not exist as countries. They were all under the control of the Turks. Over 80% of the original British Mandate land was given to Arabs without population transfer of Arabs from the land designated for Jews.

Did you know that the US was created in 1776? And on the expense of thousands of "Indians"?

How is this relevant? The only thing that matters is - that there were Palestinians in the land before the Zionists came.

16. In 1947, the Jewish state huddled on 18% of the original British Mandate land. The Jews accepted it gratefully. The Arabs rejected it with a vengeance and seven Arab states immediately declared war against Israel.

That is actually True.

17. In 1948, the Arab refugees were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaders promising to purge the land of Jews. Most of them left in fear of being killed by their own Arab brothers as traitors.

Not entirely true. Arab leaders did urge them to leave, but many were forced to leave by the Zionist forces.

18. Some 850,000 Jewish refugees were forced to flee from Arab countries, due to Arab brutality, persecution and pogroms.

They don't want to go back there, they don't see them as their homes.

19. The number of Arab refugees who left Israel in 1948 is claimed to be around 630,000 (where did they get this number?) maybe from the same source which gave you the number 1272 B.C. (nobody knows that for sure).

Propagandists of the whole World, Unite!

24. There is only one Jewish state. There are 60 Muslim countries, including 22 Arab nations.

This is like saying that there are 105 Christian countries, and 10 English-speaking nations.

You are nothing but a racist if you include all Muslims in the same category.

25. The PLO's Charter still calls for the destruction of the State of Israel.

Not true.

26. Pan-Arabism or the doctrine of Muslim Caliphate declares that all land that used to belong to Muslims must be returned to them. Thus, Spain, for example, must eventually be re-conquered.

Excellent example of how irrelevant all this is. Is there a war between Spain and any Arab country? People can have aspirations to every crazy idea, but they can live in peace at the same time because they leave their aspirations at home when they go to do business with other people. That’s applicable for the Hamas, Fatah, and the crazy Jews who want to rebuild the Temple.