Trump et. Putin

February 27 2022, jeffkliegman@gmail.com:

Putin “jumped the shark”. It has become clear that the Ukraine war is all about him. Russian soldiers are deserting. He has put the country on a nuclear high alert. There are demonstrations in Russian cities. It’s time for the Kremlin to pull the rug out from under this guy.

Charles Gifford <charles.h.gifford@gmail.com>:

I agree... it's certainly possible.

STEPHEN GOLUB <golub413@yahoo.com>:

Mr. Kliegman- Should the War take a long time, and Russian casualties mount, then there may be a problem for Putin? To Defend an area is easier than to attack one. Hard to say how long the  Ukrainians can hold? They need help. Obama helped a lot by sending them " Blankets"! Biden, the corrupt CFR Bastard, will likely send little or nothing. Maybe a show package?? Should he knock them off the SWIFT System, then how does he pay for their Oil?? We will possibly end up with gasoline Lines  again ???

The longer the War goes, the more it costs  and as casualties mount, the better for the Ukrainian defenders. This War may cost both     many lives??? House to House in Kiev could take Months for the Russkies to clean up?? They are  Masters at it, but it is expensive in Casualties!

Norman cohen <ishahrofah@gmail.com>:

Mr. Golub,

Look at a map of Russia.

NATO members Latvia and Estonia are on Russia's

extreme northern border.  But Russia can live with that

because those borders are very small and far north.

       NATO member Lithuania borders Belarus, not Russia.

       Putin does not have to worry about Belarus because

       Belarus is in Putin's pocket.

South of Belarus, the next Russian border is with Ukraine.

      That is a large border aimed at Russia's belly.

It is in Russia's vital interest that Ukraine not be part of NATO

or in any close alliance with the West.

Some NATO countries are opposed to such a relationship with

Ukraine because of the tensions that would cause --- tensions

that would outweigh any benefit.

Trump had a good relationship with Putin.  They respected and

trusted each other.   Trump could guarantee that Ukraine would

not be a part of NATO.  So there was no trouble. 

     Trouble began to brew with Obama-Biden because Putin neither

respects nor trusts him, Putin sees weakness in him, and Putin also

sees that Obama-Biden doesn't care about his own border.

With no guarantees, Putin had to act to protect Russia's vital interest.

I do not believe that Putin has grandiose schemes to restore the USSR

or the old Russian Empire.  Such a notion is, in my view, propaganda

by our leftist media whose bugaboos are Trump and Putin.  They even

make up phony Trump-Putin alliances to further Democrat Party aims.

       I'm not saying that Putin is a good guy.  He's not.

       But I can understand world realpolitik and vital interests.

       That understanding is another good thing about Trump.

This war will end when

      - Ukraine gets a new government that is as friendly as Belarus;

      - or Putin gets guarantees that Ukraine will not be a part of any

         western alliance.

It is unlikely that Ukraine will prevail.

Putin is giving Ukraine every chance to negotiate the guarantee that

he wants.

The "sanctions" are not enough to hurt Russia.

      They and the war may wind up hurting us more.

It does not follow that Taiwan is in danger.

      Taiwan presents entirely different considerations and problems

for Xi than exist for Putin.

                                               Norman

March 1, 2022, I wrote:

"(Trump and Putin) respected and trusted each other"...

Ahhh.... How stupid can you be?

The academic system in the US is really deteriorating if you were a college professor.

Cheers,

Avner E.

Roger's בית בריק:

Avner, in The OED their photos are displayed as examples of “stupid”

It it beyond comprehension that they’re capable of remembering to breathe without a reminder. 

Stay safe my electronic friend, this page in history may end as our last chapter. 

Jack Zucker <jack@fullcirclecolor.com>:

Roger,

They are worse than stupid. They spew the Putin talking points without even changing a syllable. They are traitors, Quislings, seditionists and worse. Imagine the nerve of those brave Ukrainians fighting back at a Russian invasion of their homeland.

Charles Gifford <charles.h.gifford@gmail.com>:

This is the best stuff on this thread since 2016... keep it coming... all points welcome.

Jack Zucker <jack@fullcirclecolor.com>:

Charles,

I'm glad this amuses you but I have to withdraw from the thread to keep my blood pressure down. Atenalol alone doesn't seem to do the job when I get worked up by these a-- ----s.

Charles Gifford <charles.h.gifford@gmail.com>:

pretty much the state of the country, and it isn't going to get any better.

Assortment of comments to Science Deniers (vol. 20)

Aug 23, 2021, Robert Garcia:

We no longer care if the FDA approves of the experimental vaccine jab*  It's too late for that news. The CDC and Dr. Fauci always move their goal post of their rules. There are too many other doctors saying do not take the jab, it's causing deaths already and other complications. The bad reactions are blood clots, convulsions, bleeding problems with pregnant women, magnetized stems in the blood. The FDA is now a puppet of the government. There are other medical doctor experts that disagree with these health department nuts and always tell us that vaccine is safe. Yes and these executives from YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and all the major news outlets including the local TV news stations in every city in America should be in jail for censoring other medical experts that, after their research, are against the vaccine jab.

Jack Zucker <jack@fullcirclecolor.com>:

Man, this is just brilliant. It proves that Ms Green's intellect is right up there with Matt Goetz. In fact I propose a ticket of Green/Goetz for the '24 Presidential campaign.

Robert Katz <rkatz@mygrandma.com>:

She's a very dangerous insane person.

The Republicans should call her out, and they don't.

Any elected official who encourages people not to get vaccines or wear masks should be hung from the gallows.

August 24, 2021, roger's BB <roger@bayitbrick.com>:

“magnetized stems in blood”  WOW, that’s a new one.

I cannot decide who’s more stupid, the morons who spew this shit or the mono-neuronal fools like garcia who swallow this shit.

Screw them all, they’ll get covid for failing to listen to thinking and die. And the world will have a party.

The good side, Darwinian laws apply and we’ll end up with a better gene pool.

I wrote:

Mr. Roger,

The matter in question, is the same question that I ask myself when I see another imbecile crossing in red light on a scooter, no helmet, going the wrong way, no light at night, riding his stupid girlfriend (no helmet, I mentioned). That's very common in Israel.

The question is: Is his particular stupidity inherited, i.e. in his genes, or not.

If it is - then he had better die in an accident, for all I care. Better for the word.

But if he (as well as the stupid Trump-supporters on this list) have acquired their ideas during their lifetime (= "Nurture" as opposed to Nature) - then I really don't see a benefit from their dying.

So let them live their miserable lives.

Cheers,

Avner E.

Byron Snyder <byronsnyder7171@gmail.com>:

AMEN TO THAT !

Feb 12 2022, STEPHEN GOLUB <golub413@yahoo.com>:

We are finally rid of the hideous creature Angela Merkle. Another Leftist stooge !

Israel foolishly increases Military Cooperation with Germany. This will end up a disaster in the long term! Nazis never change!

Israel has gotten the first of 4  Saar Corvettes made by none other than the Nazi supporter Krupp! 12-20

Israel signed an agreement with  a German Firm to upgrade the German navy Radar! 2-21

The German F I, is using Israeli Pegasus Software to spy  on Cell phones! 9/21

German Arms Co Rheinmetall signs with Israel to arm all its  APCs with Israeli made loitering  munitions made by UVision! 11/21

Live Fire test of Trophy successful ! Trophy System fitted on German Leopard Tanks ! 11-21

I wrote:

Ooops, another hole in my Spam filter.

You guys are still alive?... With all those bad genes manifested to your malfunctioning brains?

This calls for a serious study by a modern Darwinist. Maybe it's time to amend the theory.

I wish you all well until 120. We in the civilized society can support a small number of Errors of Nature such as yourselves. Taking care of the Weak is an important value of our Humanism.

Cheers,

Avner E.

Feb 14, Roger Brick <roger@bayitbrick.com>:

Avner, hi. 

Alas, no spam filter is fool proof, and these fools prove it. 

כל טוב.

February 14, 2022, Richard Lewis <docr1119@gmail.com>:

Avner,

According to your god Darwin, the weak you mock should be dead but you are wishing them live to 120 because of the values of your “humanism.”

Do you read that humanism comic book of values every Monday, Thursday, and Saturday?

Rich Lewis

I wrote:

Mr. Lewis,

You got it all wrong (again). I wonder if it's in your genes, or is it acquired.

Darwin is not our God. He was just a scientist (one of the top 5 of all times). So, he could (and did) make some mistakes. We are not worshipping him, just studying his theory. (and no, "theory" doesn't mean that it's just "theoretic"; it means that it's a model, and in this case - one of the best ever devised).

Human culture is a branch stemming from the cruelty of Natural Selection, in the sense that wise and caring humans (aka Liberals, and a few Conservatives too) were able to devise a system in which stupid and incapable specimen such as yourselves, who would otherwise perish in their 30s or 40s - can now live to 100 and more. You should thank science for that, if you could understand its importance in your lives.

Angela Merkel is a Nazi...

I wish you well. Sometimes stupidity is good for your serenity.

Cheers,

Avner E.

Richard Lewis <docr1119@gmail.com>:

Intelligent mocking the weak isn’t survival of the fit. 

Machiavelli had that one long before you. Schopenhauer took it all the way to Superman. Hitler tried to finish the job.

You keep mocking the weak. 

Till 120.

Stay well.

Rich Lewis

Norman cohen <ishahrofah@gmail.com>:

Mr. Effendi,

I would not rate Darwin among the top anything of the world's scientists in history.

      There are just way too many whose works were correct.

I understand that he is impressive for idol worshipers like you.

That is his utility.

     But I thank G-d for the benefits of true science.

          Der Ebisher .... Lam'natzeach ....

the Director Who conducts the orchestra of the world.

Your lexicon sounds familiar, Effendi.

      Like Asher Matathias.  Also with his points of view.

So Turks and Greeks do get along after all.

                               Norman

STEPHEN GOLUB <golub413@yahoo.com>:

Let Avner or whatever its name is be advised that Darwin believed in G-D!

Einstein  believed in G-D!!

My question for stooge Avner is: Why you never have a fact, or some useful information, other than name calling?? Are you that vacuous or just ill informed??

I wrote:

Einstein did not believe in god, you ignorant. He stated this many times.

Einstein (who did regard Darwin as one of the greatest), came up with the term "the old man" (German: des Alten) to refer to the great order of Nature, and he made it very clear that by this he did not mean God as people use this term.

This is what he said about Judaism:

Für mich ist die unverfälschte jüdische Religion wie alle anderen Religionen eine Incarnation des primitiven Aberglaubens.

I'll let you Google-translate it yourself, it's not very flattering to your religion.

Mr. Golub: I'm sure that you are a fine gentleman, who could be very kind at times. But why your buddies regard you as knowledgeable - this is beyond me. Your general knowledge does not exceed the one of a 10 year old. OK, make it 15 years.

Cheers,

Avner E.