February 27 2022, jeffkliegman@gmail.com:
Putin “jumped the shark”. It has become clear that the Ukraine war is all about him. Russian soldiers are deserting. He has put the country on a nuclear high alert. There are demonstrations in Russian cities. It’s time for the Kremlin to pull the rug out from under this guy.
Charles Gifford <charles.h.gifford@gmail.com>:
I agree... it's certainly possible.
STEPHEN GOLUB <golub413@yahoo.com>:
Mr. Kliegman- Should the War take a long time, and Russian casualties mount, then there may be a problem for Putin? To Defend an area is easier than to attack one. Hard to say how long the Ukrainians can hold? They need help. Obama helped a lot by sending them " Blankets"! Biden, the corrupt CFR Bastard, will likely send little or nothing. Maybe a show package?? Should he knock them off the SWIFT System, then how does he pay for their Oil?? We will possibly end up with gasoline Lines again ???
The longer the War goes, the more it costs and as casualties mount, the better for the Ukrainian defenders. This War may cost both many lives??? House to House in Kiev could take Months for the Russkies to clean up?? They are Masters at it, but it is expensive in Casualties!
Norman cohen <ishahrofah@gmail.com>:
Mr. Golub,
Look at a map of Russia.
NATO members Latvia and Estonia are on Russia's
extreme northern border. But Russia can live with that
because those borders are very small and far north.
NATO member Lithuania borders Belarus, not Russia.
Putin does not have to worry about Belarus because
Belarus is in Putin's pocket.
South of Belarus, the next Russian border is with Ukraine.
That is a large border aimed at Russia's belly.
It is in Russia's vital interest that Ukraine not be part of NATO
or in any close alliance with the West.
Some NATO countries are opposed to such a relationship with
Ukraine because of the tensions that would cause --- tensions
that would outweigh any benefit.
Trump had a good relationship with Putin. They respected and
trusted each other. Trump could guarantee that Ukraine would
not be a part of NATO. So there was no trouble.
Trouble began to brew with Obama-Biden because Putin neither
respects nor trusts him, Putin sees weakness in him, and Putin also
sees that Obama-Biden doesn't care about his own border.
With no guarantees, Putin had to act to protect Russia's vital interest.
I do not believe that Putin has grandiose schemes to restore the USSR
or the old Russian Empire. Such a notion is, in my view, propaganda
by our leftist media whose bugaboos are Trump and Putin. They even
make up phony Trump-Putin alliances to further Democrat Party aims.
I'm not saying that Putin is a good guy. He's not.
But I can understand world realpolitik and vital interests.
That understanding is another good thing about Trump.
This war will end when
- Ukraine gets a new government that is as friendly as Belarus;
- or Putin gets guarantees that Ukraine will not be a part of any
western alliance.
It is unlikely that Ukraine will prevail.
Putin is giving Ukraine every chance to negotiate the guarantee that
he wants.
The "sanctions" are not enough to hurt Russia.
They and the war may wind up hurting us more.
It does not follow that Taiwan is in danger.
Taiwan presents entirely different considerations and problems
for Xi than exist for Putin.
Norman
March 1, 2022, I wrote:
"(Trump and Putin) respected and trusted each other"...
Ahhh.... How stupid can you be?
The academic system in the US is really deteriorating if you were a college professor.
Cheers,
Avner E.
Roger's בית בריק:
Avner, in The OED their photos are displayed as examples of “stupid”
It it beyond comprehension that they’re capable of remembering to breathe without a reminder.
Stay safe my electronic friend, this page in history may end as our last chapter.
Jack Zucker <jack@fullcirclecolor.com>:
Roger,
They are worse than stupid. They spew the Putin talking points without even changing a syllable. They are traitors, Quislings, seditionists and worse. Imagine the nerve of those brave Ukrainians fighting back at a Russian invasion of their homeland.
Charles Gifford <charles.h.gifford@gmail.com>:
This is the best stuff on this thread since 2016... keep it coming... all points welcome.
Jack Zucker <jack@fullcirclecolor.com>:
Charles,
I'm glad this amuses you but I have to withdraw from the thread to keep my blood pressure down. Atenalol alone doesn't seem to do the job when I get worked up by these a-- ----s.
Charles Gifford <charles.h.gifford@gmail.com>:
pretty much the state of the country, and it isn't going to get any better.
