My friend Datsun has posted this comment (August 7), to which I wanted to elaborate:
Avner,
I’m very disappointed by you In you’re reply to Dan.
It’s look like if someone don’t agreed with your views, he is low life’s low IQ
And none worthy living , in the view of your great leader (Stalin )send them all to....
Or like China doing doing today sending there Muslims to camp for Education.
Bravo Avner.
My reply:
Avner,
I’m very disappointed by you In you’re reply to Dan.
It’s look like if someone don’t agreed with your views, he is low life’s low IQ
And none worthy living , in the view of your great leader (Stalin )send them all to....
Or like China doing doing today sending there Muslims to camp for Education.
Bravo Avner.
My reply:
My dear Datsun,
I think that you got me wrong.
I did not claim that this creep Dan Friedman was a low-life retarded, just for his political views.
As you know, having views different than mine is perfectly OK with me.
I just suggested, that this Friedman was stupid, because to any of my detailed arguments, and replied with single-word defamation. This is why.
I actually enjoy arguing with educated, to-the-point rivals (such as yourself!).
The above is actually good news for me, because it points out that those imbeciles are extinct-to-be breeds.
I don't need to worry about them, because the process of Evolution by Natural Selections will take care of them (you know, this process that they know nothing about, because they are too busy studying "intelligent design", or whatever they want to call this stupid "theory").
Good luck to them being so stupid.
Cheers,
Avner E.
So Datsun said:
I did not claim that this creep Dan Friedman was a low-life retarded, just for his political views.
As you know, having views different than mine is perfectly OK with me.
I just suggested, that this Friedman was stupid, because to any of my detailed arguments, and replied with single-word defamation. This is why.
I actually enjoy arguing with educated, to-the-point rivals (such as yourself!).
The above is actually good news for me, because it points out that those imbeciles are extinct-to-be breeds.
I don't need to worry about them, because the process of Evolution by Natural Selections will take care of them (you know, this process that they know nothing about, because they are too busy studying "intelligent design", or whatever they want to call this stupid "theory").
Good luck to them being so stupid.
Cheers,
Avner E.
So Datsun said:
Avner,
I don’t understand how can you compare, the Likud party with Hizbollah?
The Likud in power cause is election, who elect Mohamed?
I understand you don’t like the prime minister, but the comparison is unacceptable.
I don’t understand how can you compare, the Likud party with Hizbollah?
The Likud in power cause is election, who elect Mohamed?
I understand you don’t like the prime minister, but the comparison is unacceptable.
I said:
Dear Datsun,
I can prove to you, that the Likud party has become a terrorist organization. We experience it every day in Israel now.
The proof is based on the exact definition of "terror". It has nothing to do with elections.
But I'm not sure that you or I have the time for this long proof...
Cheers,
Avner E.
To which Datsun said:
I can prove to you, that the Likud party has become a terrorist organization. We experience it every day in Israel now.
The proof is based on the exact definition of "terror". It has nothing to do with elections.
But I'm not sure that you or I have the time for this long proof...
Cheers,
Avner E.
To which Datsun said:
Are the Likud party dealing with drugs? Can you find me a dealers? Are they smuggling weapons? Are they’re killing People on the streets ?
Are they having truck loaded with explosives and killing Marine? Or they have a bus loaded with explosives and park it next mosque In Jaffa or any Arabs place?
No you have no proof . So please don’t make yourself fool.
Are they having truck loaded with explosives and killing Marine? Or they have a bus loaded with explosives and park it next mosque In Jaffa or any Arabs place?
No you have no proof . So please don’t make yourself fool.
Datsun
And here's my detailed explanation:
No, the Likud doesn't do any of that.
But that's not the essence of Terror.
Terror = extreme fear.
From Oxford dictionary: "The use of extreme fear to intimidate people."
https://www.lexico.com/definition/terror
But that's not the essence of Terror.
Terror = extreme fear.
From Oxford dictionary: "The use of extreme fear to intimidate people."
https://www.lexico.com/definition/terror
That is exactly what terror does.
It does not necessarily have to do with physical violence.
The best definition of Terror was given by Prof. Yuval Noah Harari. He demonstrated it by an image of a mosquito, who wants to destroy a porcelain shop. The little bug can't do it himself, but he can sting an elephant, and the big animal will go crazy, and destroy the shop for the mosquito.
This is what a typical terrorist organisation does: it wishes to make a big damage, but it is too small to take over an entire country. So it does small (usually violent) actions, which affects a small number of people (even 3,000 dead is a small number, compared to the casualties of a war; but usually terrorist kill just a few dozens). The panic in the public, makes the government start a war, in which hundreds of thousands are killed. Mission accomplished (for the little terrorist organization, not for George Bush...).
The same is done by the Likud. Without the physical violence, but as I said, violence is not the point.
They stigmatize people with labels, such as "Leftist", "anarchist", "Arab-lover"; They publish embarrassing stories from the past about politicians who are not obedient to the Likud policy; They send the police to fine people 5,000 Shekels for not wearing masks in demonstrations; they give tickets to parking cars (Beitar fans never get such tickets, when they park on the walkways during football games); and fear is doing the rest for them. People are so afraid, that they won't go to protests (with which they agree 100%).
This is exactly the definition of Terror, in the service of political goals. The Likud members Miki Zohar, Amir Ohana, Miri Regev and others, have mastered this technique to perfection.
BTW, there is another reason that I said, that Hizballah is not more a terrorist organization than the Likud. Hizballah, like the Hamas, are political organisation, which are also engaged in Terrorism. Hizballah is a major part of the Lebanese parliament, and Hamas is the leading movement of Gaza strip, providing welfare, jobs and civic services to the public, in addition to its military activity.
Hizballah is even less engaged with Terrorism, because most of the time it is fighting against an ordinary army (and one of the strongest in the world at that), and NOT against civilians. It is much more a military than a terrorist organisation.
To summarize, the Likud is not engaged in violence DIRECTLY (only through mercenaries - have you heard about the Judo-Nazi organisation La-Familia? They are being used by the Likud to attack protesters, much like the Sturmabteilung - SA); but other than the violent activity (which is NOT an essential part of terrorism) - they are using the same tactics, in order to intimidate and influence the public.
Q.E.D.
It does not necessarily have to do with physical violence.
The best definition of Terror was given by Prof. Yuval Noah Harari. He demonstrated it by an image of a mosquito, who wants to destroy a porcelain shop. The little bug can't do it himself, but he can sting an elephant, and the big animal will go crazy, and destroy the shop for the mosquito.
This is what a typical terrorist organisation does: it wishes to make a big damage, but it is too small to take over an entire country. So it does small (usually violent) actions, which affects a small number of people (even 3,000 dead is a small number, compared to the casualties of a war; but usually terrorist kill just a few dozens). The panic in the public, makes the government start a war, in which hundreds of thousands are killed. Mission accomplished (for the little terrorist organization, not for George Bush...).
The same is done by the Likud. Without the physical violence, but as I said, violence is not the point.
They stigmatize people with labels, such as "Leftist", "anarchist", "Arab-lover"; They publish embarrassing stories from the past about politicians who are not obedient to the Likud policy; They send the police to fine people 5,000 Shekels for not wearing masks in demonstrations; they give tickets to parking cars (Beitar fans never get such tickets, when they park on the walkways during football games); and fear is doing the rest for them. People are so afraid, that they won't go to protests (with which they agree 100%).
This is exactly the definition of Terror, in the service of political goals. The Likud members Miki Zohar, Amir Ohana, Miri Regev and others, have mastered this technique to perfection.
BTW, there is another reason that I said, that Hizballah is not more a terrorist organization than the Likud. Hizballah, like the Hamas, are political organisation, which are also engaged in Terrorism. Hizballah is a major part of the Lebanese parliament, and Hamas is the leading movement of Gaza strip, providing welfare, jobs and civic services to the public, in addition to its military activity.
Hizballah is even less engaged with Terrorism, because most of the time it is fighting against an ordinary army (and one of the strongest in the world at that), and NOT against civilians. It is much more a military than a terrorist organisation.
To summarize, the Likud is not engaged in violence DIRECTLY (only through mercenaries - have you heard about the Judo-Nazi organisation La-Familia? They are being used by the Likud to attack protesters, much like the Sturmabteilung - SA); but other than the violent activity (which is NOT an essential part of terrorism) - they are using the same tactics, in order to intimidate and influence the public.
Q.E.D.
Cheers,
Avner E.
Avner E.
Avner,
ReplyDeleteIf you like Hezbollah Then go and join them.
Datsun, You missed all my points.
ReplyDeleteYou can try hard but you can’t convince me That the Party in Israel .(Likud) Is terror
ReplyDeleteOrganization.
You have a problem with individual, fight them but do not label a whole group
Of political party as terror organizations.
You don’t like La Familia ban them.
Of course, if a party is Israeli - then it can't possibly be a terrorist organisation... because it's Israeli, and Israel is so just and beautiful...
ReplyDeleteI think that you didn't mean that, but I'm just checking.
The "individuals" that you mentioned are the dominant, and everybody else is AFRAID of them.
Even the greatest "heros" in the Likud: Dichter, Galant, are afraid of Miki Zohar, Amsalem, Ohana, Regev - the terrorists. So their Terror works - it's goal is to terrorize everybody, not to act against "the King"...
Again, they don't have to do anything violent. Just publish fake stories about them, or even true stories, that are not relevant (Gantz masturbated in front of a girl when he was 16. Big deal...)
Cheers,
Avner E.
Perhaps for you it’s not a big deal if he masturbated in front of a girl. If that was your daughter, it would bother you.
ReplyDeleteLook you live in country that’s from day one , discriminates against ,,,,
Today is not any better. The elite that you thinks are holy grail are the most
Corrupted, who do you know , Mandlbloff and his friends is good as anything.
Datsun,
ReplyDeleteIf you say so, then you justify the methods of Zibi's puppets, to eliminate rivals from politics.
They will find anything on anyone, and will flood the social media with both true and fake news about them.
Like, if I went to politics, then they would find out that once I blew a small "haziz"in the high school class. They will blow the story 100 times than its real size. And then I'm dead, politically.
Ofer Shelach demonstrated this tactics: If you are asked "what is your reaction to the allegations that you bit your wife regularly?". If you deny, then the story gains momentum. If you ignore, they will say that your silence equals admitting. This is how Zibi's gangs work, all the time.
And you - you answer by completely missing the point: "if that was your daughter..."
I also though that everybody is corrupt. But then, a few months ago, I came to realize that Zibi is a Monster of his own league. He is the biggest threat to Israel's security, and must eliminate him, even if it means to put in power somebody who masturbated 40 years ago.
Cheers,
Avner E.